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Old 04-10-2007, 02:00 PM   #1
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Whoever gave me a bad blank rep for saying Eru was scary... deary me
I only lost five points so it was obviously a newbie but anyway...{shakes head}

He destroyed a whole civilisation!
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Old 04-11-2007, 02:00 PM   #2
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He destroyed a whole civilisation!
That civilization he destroyed was going to destroy a civilization.
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Old 04-11-2007, 02:04 PM   #3
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So, he still did it didn't he. As I said I wouldn't want to get the wrong side of him because obviously has no qualms about smiting.

(sigh) I probably shouldn't have mentioned him because conversations about Eru always get people worked up.
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Old 04-11-2007, 03:01 PM   #4
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Actually, your post sounded like you were saying he did that as an evil act. He's strong to have destroyed Numenor, but that wasn't an evil act.
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Old 04-11-2007, 03:01 PM   #5
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So, he still did it didn't he. As I said I wouldn't want to get the wrong side of him because obviously has no qualms about smiting.

(sigh) I probably shouldn't have mentioned him because conversations about Eru always get people worked up.
lol. You can mention him, just don't mention him in a bad way... There's a real Eru, you know, and you don't want to be on the wrong side of Him! But it's because of this real 'Eru' that people get all huffy and puffy about what's said about Eru. It's just easy to be riled up in the matter.

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Old 04-11-2007, 03:03 PM   #6
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So, he still did it didn't he. As I said I wouldn't want to get the wrong side of him because obviously has no qualms about smiting.

(sigh) I probably shouldn't have mentioned him because conversations about Eru always get people worked up.
I agree, ultimately, Eru must be the most scary character in the whole work! True, he's not a traditional 'horror' or 'monster', nor is he one of Melkor's spooky, twisted minions. He isn't some earthly horror nor is he a power hungry person. But he is in control, and he can and will smite you. The rules aren't set down for most people in Middle-earth and they must work out for themselves what is right and wrong. Put it this way, in the real world an ordinary man or woman might find it hard to believe the words of not another race, but a whole other species on what was right and wrong. Sure, some Men carried the words of Eru, but in a situation where the whole world is at war, trust is in short supply, so we cannot simply blame people for not believing in Eru.

I wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of him either. But who would be there to tell me otherwise? I think that's why you get so many complex figures and absolutely no 'perfect' people in Middle-earth; they're all trying to figure out what's right and wrong. If I was an ordinary Man trying to eke out a living why would I take everything that a Gondorian, descendant of the drowned Numenor, told me about Eru? Especially knowing the horrible tales that would've been passed down about the evil deeds of Numenoreans!

Eru is the Alan Sugar of Arda - he can say "You're fired!" at any point. And why? He's omnipotent.

Not everyone gets worked up about Eru.

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Actually, your post sounded like you were saying he did that as an evil act. He's strong to have destroyed Numenor, but that wasn't an evil act.
That's a moot point, not a given. I wouldn't word it as 'evil' myself, just as 'dodgy'.
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all i have to say about the sinking of Numenor is that Eru was "The lesser of two evils"


brings into light a machiavelian aspect to Eru doesn't it...


weel Bill Ferny might be scary, hes no Sharku, i at first had no idea who Sharku was and that he had conquered the Shire when they were gone...


but the worse of all


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Old 04-12-2007, 04:06 AM   #8
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Old 04-14-2007, 08:56 PM   #9
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So, he still did it didn't he. As I said I wouldn't want to get the wrong side of him because obviously has no qualms about smiting.

(sigh) I probably shouldn't have mentioned him because conversations about Eru always get people worked up.


Indeed. i beleive that people get so worked up about him, because he is sort of like the christian/jewish version of God. Everyone has a deep inner desire to defend the Lord's name should he be insulted. why would Eru be any different?
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Old 04-14-2007, 09:09 PM   #10
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Honestly, I found Boromir the scariest. The Nazgul, the Barrow Wights, etc, were straightforwardly dangerous; but Boromir was a member of the Fellowship who became a threat. The scene where he tries to take the ring from Frodo is probably the scariest to me, maybe because it hits closest to home...the people we trust being the greatest danger.
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Old 04-15-2007, 07:52 AM   #12
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why would Eru be any different?
because Eru is a fictional character, people don't worship Eru, there was never was an event called the Akallabeth, Eru never cursed mankind for eternity for worshiping at Melkor's temple. So I see no problem in questioning a fictional being's role in fictional events.

Stop me when this argument starts going round in circles
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