Which Movie was best overall? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

alatar · 04-11-2007, 02:07 PM

On that note, Boo Radley, the Peter Jackson movies could lead a person to pick up a copy of and read 'The Lord of the Rings,' which would then lead them to Led Zeppelin ...

The Movies are what they are. If I can learn to accept them, as many have witnessed via the SbS, then others might find and walk that path as well.

And, by the by, FotR was easily the best of the three - more focus on the characters and Middle Earth, less on the 'massive' battles.

Lalwendë · 04-11-2007, 03:20 PM

Anything which leads people to the joys of Led Zep needs to be packaged up, primped with an esoteric ribbon with strange designs and force fed to unsuspecting children the world over. All hail Jimmy Page! Meh.

I liked Fellowship best. It's the best part of the book, and the best film. They only needed to include those three magical chapters with the Old Forest, Tom Bombadillo and The Barrow-Downs and it would have been spot on as far as films can ever be! It has the most Hobbity stuff in it, the best music (bar Gollum's Theme which is superb as a song in its own right), all that lovely greenery, a Balrog (even if it does have flippin' wings), Bilbo Baggins and most of all....lots of Sean Bean.

Am I developing a problem here?

Lush · 04-25-2007, 11:05 AM

Fellowship. Totally. It wrung tears from my eyes and made me a Bloom fan-girl for life.

I've clearly got Stockholm Syndrome.

Seriously though. Fellowship.

Lush · 04-25-2007, 11:09 AM

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They only needed to include those three magical chapters with the Old Forest, Tom Bombadillo and The Barrow-Downs and it would have been spot on as far as films can ever be!

The Old Forest & so on is one of my favourite pieces of Tolkien's writing as a whole - but I'm glad they didn't film that bit. Something tells me it would have been a disaster. I couldn't see them handling it very well - and I'm one of those people who bow before PJ's talent.

Boo Radley · 04-26-2007, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Lush

The Old Forest & so on is one of my favourite pieces of Tolkien's writing as a whole - but I'm glad they didn't film that bit. Something tells me it would have been a disaster. I couldn't see them handling it very well - and I'm one of those people who bow before PJ's talent.

See? This is something I thought about quite a bit.
For the most part, I think PJ is the bees knees when it comes to directing ability, but I was afraid that these parts (Especially T. Bombadil) might come out appearing a bit cartoonish or hokey.
Tom is very enigmatic and to this day, I cannot picture him in my mind in such a way that he appears real.
(I'm sorry, I had this whole thing worked out in my head about how I was going to explain myself, but then somebody walked into the room and completely derailed my train of thought. Now it's gone. I hate when that happens!)

blood of angels · 06-16-2007, 06:02 PM

i would have to agree that the TT was the best movie out of the 3, it did have the best battle scene even though Pj put the elves as helms deep which i thought was really good and i know some people would disagree with me there but thats what i think anyway. I enjoy watching the second movie best out of the 3 and there is also the fact that we see the ents and are introducd to fangorn forest and meet the other ents and the fight scene with them was fantastic.

Andsigil · 06-16-2007, 06:28 PM

I enjoyed The Fellowship the most, and it was all because of the last 20 minutes of the film.

The Ring whispering Aragorn's name as he quietly rejects the temptation and closes Frodo's hand over it, telling him that he would have gone with him to the end had a quiet and implied dignity about it that few films had before.

Boromir's rescue of Merry and Pippin as he puts himself between them and the uruk-hai, yelling "Run! Run" as he makes his last stand, as well as his death scene, were enough to make the eyes well up.

Nogrod · 06-16-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lalwendë

I liked Fellowship best. It's the best part of the book, and the best film. They only needed to include those three magical chapters with the Old Forest, Tom Bombadillo and The Barrow-Downs and it would have been spot on as far as films can ever be! It has the most Hobbity stuff in it, the best music (bar Gollum's Theme which is superb as a song in its own right), all that lovely greenery, a Balrog (even if it does have flippin' wings), Bilbo Baggins and most of all....lots of Sean Bean.

I do agree with you wholeheartedly here Lal! With every point, even with the Sean Bean one...

I mean the FotR was a story told from the beginning and probably the most faithful to the Books of the three. And it had a nice mood in it. Tolkienish somehow. Maybe even "Led Zeppelinish" which is no bad thing from my point of view either...

The TT sufferes in theaters from being the part two of the trilogy hence starting from nowhere and not exactly ending anywhere. I mean if you read the Book(s) it's part of the flow but as a movie it should have to stand alone as well (with the exception you're having the marathon of watching all three films in a row without differentiating them as separate movies).

And really TT was mostly to show how well they can do the battle-scenes in the Weta-workshop... a good ad. And with OB skating the ramp in the heat of the battle one wonders how well they were actually making them... And of course for showing how well Viggo can stare at nothingness, looking (possibly) handsome and stern when being blank.

The RotK was better than the TT to my view (even though it had to include OB taking down an Oliphant single-handedly parcour-style) but it kind of tried to achieve or tell too much.

I mean in the FotR there were kind of long passages of chamber-music which makes one feel cozy and involved at the same time but in the RotK it was just like a forlonged finale of a symphony of Beethoven or Mahler for three and half hours: loud, banging and all the time on the edge but not ending just yet... (I hope you get this parable as I'm getting lost myself already)

A dream I have? Yes. An independent and highly personal director making a movie of the LotR with the same kind of budget PJ had... So no picture-book of the Middle-Earth and it's races and design (which I truly enjoyed in the films) to kind of illustrate the Book(s) but a personal interpretation of the story and actually a movie that could stand on it's own. I would love to disagree with the choices of the director but still love the film...

04-11-2007, 02:07 PM	#1
alatar Doubting Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Heaven's basement Posts: 2,466	On that note, Boo Radley, the Peter Jackson movies could lead a person to pick up a copy of and read 'The Lord of the Rings,' which would then lead them to Led Zeppelin ... The Movies are what they are. If I can learn to accept them, as many have witnessed via the SbS, then others might find and walk that path as well. And, by the by, FotR was easily the best of the three - more focus on the characters and Middle Earth, less on the 'massive' battles. __________________ There is naught that you can do, other than to resist, with hope or without it.

04-11-2007, 03:20 PM	#2
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	Anything which leads people to the joys of Led Zep needs to be packaged up, primped with an esoteric ribbon with strange designs and force fed to unsuspecting children the world over. All hail Jimmy Page! Meh. I liked Fellowship best. It's the best part of the book, and the best film. They only needed to include those three magical chapters with the Old Forest, Tom Bombadillo and The Barrow-Downs and it would have been spot on as far as films can ever be! It has the most Hobbity stuff in it, the best music (bar Gollum's Theme which is superb as a song in its own right), all that lovely greenery, a Balrog (even if it does have flippin' wings), Bilbo Baggins and most of all....lots of Sean Bean. Am I developing a problem here? __________________ Gordon's alive!

04-25-2007, 11:05 AM	#3
Lush Fair and Cold Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the big onion Posts: 1,770	Fellowship. Totally. It wrung tears from my eyes and made me a Bloom fan-girl for life. I've clearly got Stockholm Syndrome. Seriously though. Fellowship. __________________ ~The beginning is the word and the end is silence. And in between are all the stories. This is one of mine~

06-16-2007, 06:28 PM	#7
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	I enjoyed The Fellowship the most, and it was all because of the last 20 minutes of the film. The Ring whispering Aragorn's name as he quietly rejects the temptation and closes Frodo's hand over it, telling him that he would have gone with him to the end had a quiet and implied dignity about it that few films had before. Boromir's rescue of Merry and Pippin as he puts himself between them and the uruk-hai, yelling "Run! Run" as he makes his last stand, as well as his death scene, were enough to make the eyes well up. __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

06-16-2007, 06:02 PM	#6
blood of angels Newly Deceased Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: glasgow, scotland Posts: 3	i would have to agree that the TT was the best movie out of the 3, it did have the best battle scene even though Pj put the elves as helms deep which i thought was really good and i know some people would disagree with me there but thats what i think anyway. I enjoy watching the second movie best out of the 3 and there is also the fact that we see the ents and are introducd to fangorn forest and meet the other ents and the fight scene with them was fantastic.