What would Tolkien like most? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Elmo · 04-12-2007, 01:11 PM

I always find it uncomfortable when people try and guess what dead people would do or think. But to be a hypocrite, I have to agree with you and say he would have loved the music.

radagastly · 04-12-2007, 05:28 PM

I agree its very likely he would have loved the music.
I also think he would have loved the scenery, with the possible exception of Rohan. Tolkien's description was very much like the great plains of North America. New Zealand has nothing quite like that landscape. Jackson had to make do with an open plain that was rough and rocky and less rolling than what Tolkien described. It didn't look bad, not at all, but it was the only landscape that didn't seem to fit what Tolkien described. Also, the major sets/CGI mattes were dead-on, especially Moria and Minas Tirith.
There were some performances he would have appreciated as well. Ian McKellan did incredibly well portraying Gandalf (up until he bashed Denethor in the head!) Also, Bilbo, Gollum, Wormtongue, Eowyn and Eomer were all exactly what I would have expected. I wonder what he would have thought of the more 'human' and 'multi-dimensional' Boromir. I think he would have appreciated the need to flesh-out the character when putting him on film. I certainly did.

Elfchick7 · 04-13-2007, 07:16 AM

I think he would've loved the shire.

04-13-2007, 04:13 PM

I wanted to say something nice and insightful for your thread here, but I just.. I just bloody well can't.

Elfchick7 · 04-13-2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Neithan Tol Turambar

I wanted to say something nice and insightful for your thread here, but I just.. I just bloody well can't.

What do you mean? Oh and this isn't MY thread.

04-13-2007, 06:24 PM

Go read what I think of the movies in the thread What movie is best, or somesuch, and then my meaning will be made clear to you. Don't despair! You seem nice and I like your posts.

MatthewM · 04-16-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by radagastly

I wonder what he would have thought of the more 'human' and 'multi-dimensional' Boromir. I think he would have appreciated the need to flesh-out the character when putting him on film. I certainly did.

None can say for certain. Multi-dimensional maybe, but I wouldn't use "more human." I think what Jackson did was expanded a bit more on what Tolkien already gives, such as Boromir's emotion. Boromir may come off to some as very callous in the books, but he does indeed weep after he tried to take the Ring from Frodo. I think what PJ did was looked at this scene and made that emotion come through in Boromir a little more than we see in the books (for example, the tear in Lothlorien, and the conversation that follows between Boromir and Aragorn.)

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 08-05-2007, 04:20 PM

I think that Tolkien would like the Shire and the music and the scenery yes having an exception of Rohan...sorry Rohan.

Laurinquë · 01-27-2008, 03:16 AM

I think Tolkien would have liked the people who played the characters, they were chosen very carefully and are very good at what they do. And yes, he would have liked the music. And not Rohan. I also think he may have liked the scene where Fairmir asks Frodo who Sam is saying "who is he, your bodyguard?" and Sam goes "No, his gardener." Of course that is not in the book but still I think he would find it cute.

Groin Redbeard · 01-27-2008, 01:13 PM

No question about it. Peter Jackson really captured Sam's character beautifully in Sean Astin (or is it Austin

).

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 01-27-2008, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Laurinquë

I think Tolkien would have liked the people who played the characters, they were chosen very carefully and are very good at what they do. And yes, he would have liked the music. And not Rohan. I also think he may have liked the scene where Fairmir asks Frodo who Sam is saying "who is he, your bodyguard?" and Sam goes "No, his gardener." Of course that is not in the book but still I think he would find it cute.

Maybe, it depends, of course it is a blunt fact!

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Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

No question about it. Peter Jackson really captured Sam's character beautifully in Sean Astin (or is it Austin

).

It's Astin, I know it is!

04-12-2007, 01:11 PM	#1
Elmo Pittodrie Poltergeist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: trying to find that warm and winding lane again Posts: 633	I always find it uncomfortable when people try and guess what dead people would do or think. But to be a hypocrite, I have to agree with you and say he would have loved the music. __________________ As Beren looked into her eyes within the shadows of her hair, The trembling starlight of the skies he saw there mirrored shimmering.

04-12-2007, 05:28 PM	#2
radagastly Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Washington, D. C., USA Posts: 299	I agree its very likely he would have loved the music. I also think he would have loved the scenery, with the possible exception of Rohan. Tolkien's description was very much like the great plains of North America. New Zealand has nothing quite like that landscape. Jackson had to make do with an open plain that was rough and rocky and less rolling than what Tolkien described. It didn't look bad, not at all, but it was the only landscape that didn't seem to fit what Tolkien described. Also, the major sets/CGI mattes were dead-on, especially Moria and Minas Tirith. There were some performances he would have appreciated as well. Ian McKellan did incredibly well portraying Gandalf (up until he bashed Denethor in the head!) Also, Bilbo, Gollum, Wormtongue, Eowyn and Eomer were all exactly what I would have expected. I wonder what he would have thought of the more 'human' and 'multi-dimensional' Boromir. I think he would have appreciated the need to flesh-out the character when putting him on film. I certainly did. __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before, I listen for returning feet and voices at the door.

04-13-2007, 07:16 AM	#3
Elfchick7 Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In the Greenwood Posts: 201	I think he would've loved the shire. __________________ "Yesterday is history. Tommorow is a mystery. Today is a gift from God. That's why it's called the PRESENT!"

04-13-2007, 04:13 PM	#4
Neithan Tol Turambar Guest Posts: n/a	sorry Elfchick I wanted to say something nice and insightful for your thread here, but I just.. I just bloody well can't.

08-05-2007, 04:20 PM	#8
TheGreatElvenWarrior Mighty Quill Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Walking off to look for America Posts: 2,230	I think that Tolkien would like the Shire and the music and the scenery yes having an exception of Rohan...sorry Rohan. __________________ The Party Doesn't Start Until You're Dead.

04-13-2007, 06:24 PM	#6
Neithan Tol Turambar Guest Posts: n/a	Go read what I think of the movies in the thread What movie is best, or somesuch, and then my meaning will be made clear to you. Don't despair! You seem nice and I like your posts.

01-27-2008, 03:16 AM	#9
Laurinquë Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 347	I think Tolkien would have liked the people who played the characters, they were chosen very carefully and are very good at what they do. And yes, he would have liked the music. And not Rohan. I also think he may have liked the scene where Fairmir asks Frodo who Sam is saying "who is he, your bodyguard?" and Sam goes "No, his gardener." Of course that is not in the book but still I think he would find it cute.

01-27-2008, 01:13 PM	#10
Groin Redbeard Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Facing the world's troubles with Christ's hope! Posts: 1,635	Sam No question about it. Peter Jackson really captured Sam's character beautifully in Sean Astin (or is it Austin). __________________ I heard the bells on Christmas Day. Their old, familiar carols play. And wild and sweet the words repeatof peace on earth, good-will to men! ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow