Werewolf XXXI: The Unknown Enemies

[Rikae]

While I confess I've always found Mac's wit and intelligence rather attractive, I think I'm a bit too old for him.

[Macalaure]

'Yea, we will drink xyzzy's blood gladly, that so we may forget the blood of Gil-Galad our master, and the blood of Legate slain unjustly. Let us slay him swiftly!'




To those who doubt me: check the circumstances under which I revealed. At the time, I thought myself to be in danger of being killed at night. I wasn't in danger of being lynched at all, so why should I have taken that risk? I even would have sacrificed a fairly unsuspected Lommy in the course of it. If I was a wolf who had to fear the existance of a seer, it would've been a truly horrible gamble.
I also would have chosen an earlier point of time on the Day, so that I could make sure Lommy would really be lynched.

Of course, I haven't dreamt of Rikae, so there is a slight chance that she is another wolf and probably Six the ranger. I doubt that, especially since what Rikae has told us of her interaction with Roa sounds very coherent. *listens quietly whether he hears Roa slamming her head against her keyboard from afar*

Originally Posted by Nogrod

We have a few possibilities.

a) Mac is the Seer and has given us the information he has in earnest, as he should.

b) Mac is the Seer and gives us good knowledge, but is in cahoots with his lover Rikae (or Mith? or someone else?) and thence wins as we ignore his "mistress" by the way he wishes us to vote for Xyzzy.

c) The Sixth is the Seer and Mac took a risk that paid off as the Sixth doesn't seem to bother too much of this game.

d) There is no Seer to begin with - and thence Mac's claim to it is a false one (a risk taken and seemingly paying off).

For c) and d), see above. It would have been too risky for a wolf, at least if it includes sacrificing his companion, leaving no backdoor for victory if the gamble fails. The timing would have been bad, too.
Concerning b),... are you suggesting a seer lover? Well, it's an interesting idea to have a seer whose concern isn't the good of the village, but, as far as I know, this would be a new kind of role, and Menel said he wouldn't invent new things.

This leaves a).

While I confess I've always found Mac's wit and intelligence rather attractive, I think I'm a bit too old for him.

Thanks a lot! I'm really flattered and can only say the same of you in turn (the part before the comma, of course).

However, it's seems that, despite all attractiveness, you have never bothered to ever look up my member profile.
*points to birthdates*

[Mithalwen]

Blimey....

I will look more carefully but I have to bear in mind that Nogrod has a brain that functions at a higher level than mine and that in previous games from the privelieged position of mod or dead gifted I have seen him bark up some wonderfully crafted intellectualy but completely wrong trees.

I will examine all because I would hate to be "done up like a kipper" but in many ways Xyzzy being the last wolf is the most likely speculation.

I still think he was the most likely to have missed a kill with lommy tied up and I am sure that a more active wolf would have taken the very present opportunity to get me lynched (though I have to say that apart from when I was hit by a fit of sarcasm my posts seem quite reasonable to me...). Also I would indeed have been a very "safe" kill last night (and fully expected to be dead) . I know I am an accountant and notice this more than most but it is something to bear in mind - was exposure more a risk than numbers.

However at this stage there is only one thing to do and that is reread everything with the hypotheses in mind - it is how I found out a wolvish Anguirel in the end..

It will take time but since I am here I will organise my day to allow for it! However I doubt I will have firm conclusions til later ....late afternoon say....

[The Sixth Wizard]

Yes people I have come around!

'Yea, we will drink xyzzy's blood gladly, that so we may forget the blood of Gil-Galad our master, and the blood of Legate slain unjustly. Let us slay him swiftly!'

How bloodthirsty this Werewolf is...

Six is acting weird, but that seems to be his style

and

The Sixth surely looks like he's quite lost many times but he also posts things that at least look pretty complicated.

This probably comes from me being quite a bit younger and also more eccentric than you. Plus I'm not that experienced at Werewolf, obviously. Believe me when I say I am not at all offended.

Seeing as my answer is apparently of 'utmost importance', I would like to reveal that I am an (albiet deluded) normal villager. I have no special role and though I must admit Legate's analysis of me was extraordinary, all of the material comes from a lack of experience in Werewolf. I have now learned not to put too much trust in one player and also to not hold a grudge against players like Legate and Gil-Galad who accuse me.

I am just a regular villager. There you go! Believe it or don't!

. . . Anyway we've almost certainly won this game, if Mac is a real Seer, which I think he is.

And without further ado, I might as well vote.

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Shade of Carn Dum! Yessss!

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I don't see a reason to not vote xyzzy. I kinda can relate to a newbie though. Ah well.

++xyzzy

[Mithalwen]

Ah well with 4 non retractable votes gone and 3 for Xyzzy forgive me Noggin dear for not spending a glorious spring day in a futile exercise to humour you .

If I wish to frowst inside I have 3 RPG posts to do....

And maybe if all vote.. Menel will put us out of our misery immediately:

After all I was the first to want him out of the way - how ironic that this is effectively merely a show of solidarity...

++Xyzzy

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by The Sixth

I would like to reveal that I am an (albiet deluded) normal villager. I have no special role

That kind of seals this then. With no contesting claims I'm more than happy and relieved to join the gang.

++ Xyzzy

Hooray!

Originally Posted by Mith

in previous games from the privelieged position of mod or dead gifted I have seen him bark up some wonderfully crafted intellectualy but completely wrong trees.

I've been fooled pretty elaborately at the last meters before *coughValiercough* so I wish to see the options - and the reactions to trhem - first...

A little add-on just to tease you friends: Now I'm pretty amazed that we have no one to fight for Xyzzy as his lover... I was indeed pretty confident that we'll have a pair of lovers involved in this game. And as we can't be certain about what roles there are in the first place, that leaves a window open for surprises still... but okay. Enough for me. If there is a secret plan behind all this, I'll be glad to congratulate the winners for an excellent performance.

[xyzzy]

I'm as good as dead, now...

...Congratulations, innocents. You've won now.

Now could someone PLEASE explain to me what these Lover roles are, before I die? I've been dying to know, but the ignorance alibi (Who's Lommy, what's their gender, etc.) would have become quite apparent if I suddenly had a real moment of ignorance.

I don't suppose it's too late to enter the Witness Protection Program, is it now? Oh well. Next time, I won't be taken down quite so neatly.

I've considered the idea of hosting an enormous 100+ player game of Werewolf, with lots of people from lots of forums; if I do that, I'm definitely not allowing Meta-discussion. Or is that discussion of Meta, because Meta-discussion would merely be a higher level of conversation, and of course people who've never met each other should be allowed to talk to each other! Now Meta-Meta-conversation, I'd have to limit that, since we don't want people getting confused by referencing other games as if they are this game. And Meta-Meta-Meta-conversation, that would just be stupid.

Anyway, congratulations on being a lot craftier than me.