Silmarillion - Chapter 10 - Of the Sindar - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

The Sixth Wizard · 04-14-2007, 03:31 PM

Hello! This is possibly my first Chapter-by-Chapter post. I have read the Silmarillion, the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, am in a mind to buy the Children of Hurin, but haven't got stuck into Histories of Middle Earth or Letters of J.R.R Tolkien yet...

Anyways...

I think that we have a point in pointing out differences in Noldorian/Sindar culture. Noldor cities, even in Beleriand, were often high and powerful, though doubtlessly strongholds. Maedhros dwelt upon Himring, ’after the great defeat’, so even when Morgoth was at strength he refused to go into hiding. Nargothrond was indeed underground, and the Elves defended it by secrecy and woodsmanship, but … (searches unavailingly through the Silmarillion index) … I think the phrase used was: ’fell from the valour of the Elves of old’, or something very similar. Other fortresses belonging to the Noldor include those in the Ered Wethrin, Tol Sirion, etc. which are certainly not underground fastnesses.

Have we mentioned that this is the first chapter Luthien is mentioned?
‘The bright stars shone as silver fires, and there in the forest of Neldoreth Luthien was born, and the white flowers of niphredil came forth to greet her as stars from the earth’.

04-14-2007, 03:31 PM	#7
The Sixth Wizard Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stuck under a rock in Valinor with Ar-Pharazon. Posts: 480	Hello! This is possibly my first Chapter-by-Chapter post. I have read the Silmarillion, the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, am in a mind to buy the Children of Hurin, but haven't got stuck into Histories of Middle Earth or Letters of J.R.R Tolkien yet... Anyways... I think that we have a point in pointing out differences in Noldorian/Sindar culture. Noldor cities, even in Beleriand, were often high and powerful, though doubtlessly strongholds. Maedhros dwelt upon Himring, ’after the great defeat’, so even when Morgoth was at strength he refused to go into hiding. Nargothrond was indeed underground, and the Elves defended it by secrecy and woodsmanship, but … (searches unavailingly through the Silmarillion index) … I think the phrase used was: ’fell from the valour of the Elves of old’, or something very similar. Other fortresses belonging to the Noldor include those in the Ered Wethrin, Tol Sirion, etc. which are certainly not underground fastnesses. Have we mentioned that this is the first chapter Luthien is mentioned? ‘The bright stars shone as silver fires, and there in the forest of Neldoreth Luthien was born, and the white flowers of niphredil came forth to greet her as stars from the earth’.