Admin thread for Werewolf XXXII: The Lost Age

[The Saucepan Man]

Um, I may be missing something here, but, assuming that the villagers are allowed to discuss who to vote for, can't they simply agree to lynch the three Vampires on the first three Days, leaving it as a struggle between the villagers and the Shade? Even if the Vampire Ranger and/or the Vampire Hunter make some lucky picks, the odds look stacked against the Vampires to me (especially as the Seer will be able to ascertain the Vampire Gifted roles within three Nights).

And it doesn't look like it will be much fun for the three known Werewolves, whose only challenge will be in exercising their "Gifted" roles. They don't even get to vote.

Or am I being incredibly stoopid and missing something obvious?

Volo, please keep me as a question-mark for now. I still need to work out whether I will have sufficient time for the game (which depends, to a degree, on the answers to the various rule questions which have been raised).

[Roa_Aoife]

Uh, guys, I'm pretty sure Volo was joking about the Vampires....

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Roa

Uh, guys, I'm pretty sure Volo was joking about the Vampires....

That's what I thought too...he's gotta be joking... Or is he?

Does this mean I'm going to have to move to Finland if I want to be come a Vampire too?

Originally Posted by Nogrod

However, I still think the villagers look like being quite the underdogs here.

I kind of have to agree with Noggie on this one. While I do like the idea of gifted baddies and hidden votes, combining both in one game may put the innocents at a great disadvantage.

I don't know...but perhaps we all just need some further explanations...

Also, 16:00 GMT - that's 4pm GMT, right? Sorry, I just get easily confused by these things...

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Roa

Uh, guys, I'm pretty sure Volo was joking about the Vampires....

Hmm, that may be the obvious thing that I missed ...

But ... it didn't look like a joke to me (or am I just too dependent upon smilies).

Maybe I am reading too much into it, but I thought that there might be some fiendish explanation that would make sense of revealing the Vampires at the outset. Such as them being able to make new Vampires, although that would still leave the original Vampires without much of a challenge.

EDIT: If it was a joke, I rather agree with Nogrod that the Vampires would appear to have a loaded hand here.

[Thinlómien]

It was most definitely a joke from Volo's part, since Volo knows me, Aganzir and Noggie from/in RL and has been joking about making us the three wolves for a long while. (Obvioulsy it'd be quite funny from my perspective if the wolves were me, my father and one of my best friends...) So don't worry about that, dear fellow players.

[Macalaure]

Sign me in, please.

[Volo]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I can understand what a vampire-Seer does. S/he's pretty powerful one as s/he can try to spot the gifteds for the vampires. I can also see that a vampire-hunter would take away one innocent when lynched. Both of these roles seem to make the vampires have the upper hand pretty definitively. To this the fact can be added that there is no voting-record to help the villagers. So are you sure about the balance of this game?

And what will a vampire-ranger do? Defend a fellow vampire that was to be lynched? Okay, I can see a point in this as the innocents who do the voting don't exactly know who was in trouble and thence a save by the vampire-ranger doesn't reveal the saved vampire for sure. Or is s/he only for saving another vampire whom the shade meant to kill at Night? In both cases, more in the first, the vampires are made even stronger.

Yes, the V(ampire)Seer is to find the Gifteds/Shade and the VHunter has a free kill at death.

The VRanger can save from the Shade and the Hunter, but not from the Lynch or the Lynch Kill (I'll explain).

Originally Posted by Nogrod

So the shade is only interested in her/his own survival, right? And s/he wins if s/he stays alive when the game ends? So s/he needs the village to win. So s/he must care about who wins...

Originally Posted by Legate

Well, I think the shadow wouldn't necessarily need to "join" the village, as far as I understand it, at the moment the wolves win, technically there are yet the same number of ordos alive - so if the shadow is one of them, he wins as well, doesn't he?

The Shade is on its own. Of course it can make deals with the Village or Vampires in the game thread, and betray if it wants.
It's the most important role in the whole game as it can change a lot, so use it wisely.

The only thing the Shade has to do is survive. It wins if either the Villagers or the Vampires win, as long as the Shade is alive. The Vampires don't have any reason to kill the Shade, except for their own safety, as the Shade can kill them. The Shade may also vote, unlike the Vampires.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Is the shade then the "secret weapon" of the villagers "who will bring the balance"?

If the Shade wishes to help the Village.

Originally Posted by Legate

Well, from what I understand now the biggest problem would be that there'd be an effort from the villagers to kill the Were-Ranger first, because otherwise there'd be no chance of lynching... or so I understand that...

Nah, the VRanger can't save from Lynches.

Originally Posted by SPM

Um, I may be missing something here, but, assuming that the villagers are allowed to discuss who to vote for?

Sure!

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Also, 16:00 GMT - that's 4pm GMT, right? Sorry, I just get easily confused by these things...

Yes.

Originally Posted by Volo

Oh, and the Vampires will be Aganzir, Thinlómien and Nogrod.

Originally Posted by Lommy

It was most definitely a joke from Volo's part, since Volo knows me, Aganzir and Noggie from/in RL and has been joking about making us the three wolves for a long while. (Obvioulsy it'd be quite funny from my perspective if the wolves were me, my father and one of my best friends...) So don't worry about that, dear fellow players.

In fact they should worry. You, Nogrod and Aganzir are the only ones that don't. It's a joke, sorry (not really... ) for confusing you... I'll shuffle all the roles. Or so I think.

Welcome, Roa, Gil and Mac! and Xyzzy, who PMd me.