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Old 04-27-2007, 05:44 PM   #1
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I hadn't quite made a closer look at you Lommy before this - okay, 23 people to begin with - but this looks pretty bad. So you kind of wish to say that I'm suspicious because I make a suggestion of looking at another direction for a while but you still manage to pick a few from my list to look after as well...

Your last post doesn't only make me wary about you but of your list as well (those you wish to give the credit). Please remember what I said:
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So how about paying more attention to Glirdan, Sleepy, Durelin, Diamond, Aganzir, Xyzzy, The Sixth... There are enough of these people that fly under the radar to hide a vampire or two within them.
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I do not mean that let's lynch all those who post little but let's concentrate our efforts to that direction for a while too. I mean why do people think as a given fact that those who post a lot are the vampires? That's an absurd inference!
And you jumped on to say that I'm suspicious on these bases? So someone is suspicious if he doesn't stick with those who are suspected normally by the most people? And just to remind you all, the vampires (wolves) will love to leave the unposting / unvoting people live as their cause is tremendously aided by them. We villagers need to get rid of them as the vampires will not do it and thence those who do not post willl make an ever increasing threat to us as the game goes on. I have seen too many games this far to know this.

So just get rational you people!

Lying for ten Days in a row is a pretty hard work and probably the one doing it will make a mistake a moment or another. That one will get caught if there are independent players enough alive as the one fails.

So the greatest threat to us are those people we can't say anything about (those who do not post or who play safely). With them it's just like tossing a coin. In the endgame these people become terrifying. So as long as we have the chances, let's lynch them.

I know some of you say that I'm being brutal or vampirish. That's your right to think. But just give this another thought. I've seen games where the silents have won the game with their demonical ends. And in regards of those vocal players we tend to lynch more often than not we kill an innocent who would have been an asset to us.

Too frequently an innocent stands up against an innocent with pure intentions and one of them gets killed. That happens a bit too often.

The wolves smirk in the darkness...

And anyhow - I've said this a thousand times but feel I need to make this point again - a baddie does well to stay out of any controversy. It's the innocents who try to meddle with the things and to affect the game...

So just think again. Please.

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Edit X'd with a a few and deleted a part that referred to Lommy's posting I thought was out of place in regards to the post as a whole....
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:01 PM   #2
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I think at this point everyone's on everyone else's suspect list, Espiem.
Then I shall let you know where I stand with everyone at the moment.

Gil: I hesitate to halt the voice that he has so recently found. He does have some good points from time to time. And his instincts have been known to be good in the past. I doubt that I’ll vote for him toDay unless something changes radically.

Rikae: A Vampire, surely. Accusing people based on banter, then very defensive about it. Throwing accusations around with little to back them. And I just don’t buy her expanation of that slip.

Boro: I am seeing nothing about him to worry me. Nevertheless, I do not underestimate him by any means.

Nogrod: Nogrod has done all the usual Nogrod things. The trinagulation theory. The concern about the quiet ones. The comments on sportsmanship. And yet there is something about his manner that I don’t like. He seems more … sneaky … than usual. Seems to be busying himself casting aspersions against everyone who suspects him. And then there’s that stoking of the Celuien bandwagon and voting for Legate thing yesterDay.

Eomer: I am by no means taking his innocence for granted as, like Boro, he should certainly not be underestimated. But I see nothing to worry me thus far, and his vote for Celuien speaks in his favour.

Lomiella: Another Celuien voter. Apart from her blind spot on Rikae, I see nothing to concern me about her.

Legate: Difficult to get a handle on. I understand what people are saying about his “reasonableness”, but I get the feeling that that’s the way he is, wherever his loyalties lie.

Aganzir: Other than the vote for Celuien, not a lot to go on. No major concerns at the moment.

Menel: Sometime he look suspicious. Sometime he make good point. Undecided.

Xyzzy: Not a lot to go on, but I didn’t like the possible attempt to “out” our Seer. Under observation.

Roa: A Celuien voter, so on my “innocent for now” list. Her contributions yesterDay looked reassuring to me. Again, though, I’m not underestimating her by any means.

Mac: Finding it difficult to get a reading on Mac at the moment.

Di: Funnily enough, I feel OK about Di. Her refusal to state her vote yesterDay was unlikely to be the approach of a Vamp.

Shasta: There are a number of things that make me wary of Shasta. Sometimes, he seems guileless, while he shows impressive insight at other times. Seemed to hide under a cloak of roleplaying yesterDay. Seems unduly defensive of Rikae toDay.

Kitanna: Still wary of that confusion over the Vampires yesterDay, which could well have been a bluff. But I am thinking it less likely by the minute that both she and Rikae are Vampires.

Sleepy: Nothing to go on at all. I thought that you were going to be more active toDay, Sleepy.

Durelin: I don’t see a Durelin Vampire. I see a Durelin being a Durelin. But I could be wrong.

Glirdy: Who?

Rune: Some Shade hints for sure, but perhaps too obvious. Other than that, has done a good job of doing very little to attract too much attention.

Sixth: Another one who I haven’t really got a handle on yet.
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:10 PM   #3
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Post count (prior to this one):

Gil-Galad 23
Nogrod 22
The Saucepan Man 21
Rikae 20
Shastanis Althreduin 16
Thinlómien 16
Boromir88 11
Volo 8
Eomer of the Rohirrim 8
Meneltarmacil 7
Macalaure 7
Rune Son of Bjarne 7
Roa_Aoife 7
Durelin 6
Legate of Amon Lanc 6
Diamond18 5
Aganzir 4
Kitanna 4
The Sixth Wizard 4
Celuien 4
Brinniel 3
xyzzy 3
Sleepy Ranger 2
Kath 1

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Old 04-27-2007, 06:13 PM   #4
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Rikae: A Vampire, surely. Accusing people based on banter, then very defensive about it. Throwing accusations around with little to back them. And I just don’t buy her expanation of that slip.
I'd just like to point out that we've discussed this, Rikae did not accuse anyone based on banter. Gil accused Rikae of accusing... I believe it was Mac or you, Espiem, of being a vampire based on your roleplaying post, but I thought we'd ascertained that Rikae was just bantering herself...
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