WW XXXIII - Other Minds and Hands - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Mithalwen · 05-15-2007, 11:22 AM

I mean a possible role of False seer not necessarily here and now...

Mithalwen · 05-15-2007, 11:28 AM

Oh volo - I am definietely not in the market of lynching a flitter today - just pointing out that there are levels of IC ... and as time goes on it may be that we have to weigh RL and habit against the possibility / statistical probablility that if we have 4 or 5 people who post just enough to stay in the game, that a wolf may be in their number - the devil will be in deciding which.... and of course it will be necessary in this game for a low posting wolf to make the effort to at least register their presence since the mod not the players will dispose of them.

Mithalwen · 05-15-2007, 11:37 AM

Legate I might well vote for..... btu I worry that suspecting him is a not entirely unjustified habit.... but as Brinniel say it might be throw away ... and indeed wrong....

So little time, so much confusion, such a great fear that it is an innocents tear each other apart day..... shall we try to avoid a double lynch at least? I can only see that that would help the wolves ...

And volo - if you do have som knowledge can you be less oblique?

Or is this some wolftrick?

My mirror is very cloudy

Mithalwen · 05-15-2007, 11:43 AM

OK I will change if necessary but first vote of instinct even if second for necessity:

++Legate of Amon Lanc

Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-15-2007, 11:45 AM

Well although Volo's role could have been a trick, I don't think he'd think of it himself. Also remember the narration (the book and the lines in it). The shame is, that it was revealed - surely more fun could've been brought with it. Any downside of revealing, Volo? But let's keep this off - with deadline about 2 hours earlier than I am used to, I now realized in shock after SpM's and Mith's post that it's upon us!

Hey, we HAVE TO AVOID DOUBLE-LYNCH AT ALL COSTS!!! While I know with the remaining votes my vote might lead to it, I'm still keeping one vote for retraction. Let's hope no one else does it!

PLEASE CHECK YOU DON'T CROSS-VOTE WITH ANYONE, BECAUSE THEN WE CAN HAVE DOUBLE-LYNCH VERY NICELY.

++Anguirel

for what I said earlier.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-15-2007, 11:46 AM

Ad Six: I believe him innocent, because he didn't do anything that could be wolfish apart of that he started bandwaggon for Ang.

Anguirel · 05-15-2007, 11:51 AM

Evidently this is going to be a pretty close run thing, especially with Saruman helpfully chipping in over there...I don't think there's much point in doing anything other than this:

--VOLO, ++SIXTH WIZARD

Very undignified to have to stoop to scrabbling for my skin, but...

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-15-2007, 11:46 AM

OK Volo, I'll buy your explanation, for now at least. Although, with a greater likelihood of an innocent being lynched than a Wolf on Day 1, it might have been better for you not to have revealed your role and run the risk of being non-lynched. After all, the main advantage of your role would appear to be that the Wolves might have wasted a kill on you.

Aganzir · 05-15-2007, 11:47 AM

I would rather go for Legate than for Sixth or Ang, though voting for Legate at this point would indeed be throw away. Sixth is more suspicious than Ang, of whom I can't say anything.

++Legate

I'll change to Sixth if necessary.

edit: xed since Legate

Volo · 05-15-2007, 11:49 AM

--Anguirel
++The Sixth Wizard

I suspect those two more than Legate, but seeing that Sixth will be lynched more surely than Ang I'll vote him.

Macalaure · 05-15-2007, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I'll change to Sixth if necessary.

And I would change to Legate if necessary. We all just have to decide on one.

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-15-2007, 11:50 AM

I declare myself willing to vote for Legate, if necessary, given that he looks far more suspicious to me than Ang.

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-15-2007, 11:51 AM

Crossed with Volo's retraction and vote - I'll leave my vote with Sixer for now.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-15-2007, 11:53 AM

I guess it's obvious that Six is toast now, but I daresay that you made a mistake, and if not, I'm going to eat my own Orc-food...

Mithalwen · 05-15-2007, 11:53 AM

So What are the votes ..I am too befuddled...... I need ot know if widowhood is imminent...

Brinniel · 05-15-2007, 11:52 AM

Okay, now people are starting to vote Legate...

What to do...

Well, since this won't be a throw-away vote anymore, I will after all vote:

++Legate

Hopefully, this won't turn into a double lynch toDay...

EDIT: X-ed with Volo on...

Volo · 05-15-2007, 11:56 AM

Diamond: ++Gil-Galad (Gil-1)
Boromir: ++Boromir (Gil-1, Boro-1)
Boromir: --Boromir, ++Anguirel (Gil-1, Anguirel-1)
SpM: ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-1, Sixth-1)
Sixth: ++Anguirel (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-1)
Lommy: ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-2)
Kath: ++Rune (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-2, Rune-1)
Anguirel: ++Volo (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-2, Rune-1, Volo-1)
Volo: ++Anguirel (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-2, Rune-1, Volo-1)
Rune: ++Volo (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-2, Rune-1, Volo-2)
Mac: ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2)
Mith: ++Legate (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-1)
Legate: ++Ang (Gil-1, Anguirel-4, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-1)
Aganzir: ++Legate (Gil-1, Anguirel-4, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-2)
Volo: --Ang, ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-4, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-2)
Ang: --Volo, ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-5, Rune-1, Volo-1, Legate-2)
Brinniel: ++Legate (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-5, Rune-1, Volo-1, Legate-3)

EDIT: Huh, xd with everything since Brinniel's vote.

Mithalwen · 05-15-2007, 11:57 AM

15 vote out of a possible 19 is not great .. but better than most general elections....

Macalaure · 05-15-2007, 11:57 AM

That's six vote counts in a row!

Brinniel · 05-15-2007, 11:58 AM

Ah, thanks for that, both Volo and SPM. I'm less confused now...

05-15-2007, 11:22 AM	#1
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I mean a possible role of False seer not necessarily here and now... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

05-15-2007, 11:28 AM	#2
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Oh volo - I am definietely not in the market of lynching a flitter today - just pointing out that there are levels of IC ... and as time goes on it may be that we have to weigh RL and habit against the possibility / statistical probablility that if we have 4 or 5 people who post just enough to stay in the game, that a wolf may be in their number - the devil will be in deciding which.... and of course it will be necessary in this game for a low posting wolf to make the effort to at least register their presence since the mod not the players will dispose of them. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

05-15-2007, 11:37 AM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Legate I might well vote for..... btu I worry that suspecting him is a not entirely unjustified habit.... but as Brinniel say it might be throw away ... and indeed wrong.... So little time, so much confusion, such a great fear that it is an innocents tear each other apart day..... shall we try to avoid a double lynch at least? I can only see that that would help the wolves ... And volo - if you do have som knowledge can you be less oblique? Or is this some wolftrick? My mirror is very cloudy __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

05-15-2007, 11:43 AM	#4
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	OK I will change if necessary but first vote of instinct even if second for necessity: ++Legate of Amon Lanc __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

05-15-2007, 11:45 AM	#5
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Well although Volo's role could have been a trick, I don't think he'd think of it himself. Also remember the narration (the book and the lines in it). The shame is, that it was revealed - surely more fun could've been brought with it. Any downside of revealing, Volo? But let's keep this off - with deadline about 2 hours earlier than I am used to, I now realized in shock after SpM's and Mith's post that it's upon us! Hey, we HAVE TO AVOID DOUBLE-LYNCH AT ALL COSTS!!! While I know with the remaining votes my vote might lead to it, I'm still keeping one vote for retraction. Let's hope no one else does it! PLEASE CHECK YOU DON'T CROSS-VOTE WITH ANYONE, BECAUSE THEN WE CAN HAVE DOUBLE-LYNCH VERY NICELY. ++Anguirel for what I said earlier. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

05-15-2007, 11:46 AM	#6
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Ad Six: I believe him innocent, because he didn't do anything that could be wolfish apart of that he started bandwaggon for Ang. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

05-15-2007, 11:51 AM	#7
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Evidently this is going to be a pretty close run thing, especially with Saruman helpfully chipping in over there...I don't think there's much point in doing anything other than this: --VOLO, ++SIXTH WIZARD Very undignified to have to stoop to scrabbling for my skin, but... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

05-15-2007, 11:46 AM	#8
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	OK Volo, I'll buy your explanation, for now at least. Although, with a greater likelihood of an innocent being lynched than a Wolf on Day 1, it might have been better for you not to have revealed your role and run the risk of being non-lynched. After all, the main advantage of your role would appear to be that the Wolves might have wasted a kill on you. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-15-2007, 11:47 AM	#9
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	I would rather go for Legate than for Sixth or Ang, though voting for Legate at this point would indeed be throw away. Sixth is more suspicious than Ang, of whom I can't say anything. ++Legate I'll change to Sixth if necessary. edit: xed since Legate __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

05-15-2007, 11:49 AM	#10
Volo Silver in My Silent Heart Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the great beauty Posts: 1,611	--Anguirel ++The Sixth Wizard I suspect those two more than Legate, but seeing that Sixth will be lynched more surely than Ang I'll vote him. __________________ Fenris Wolf The EVEN NEWER Barrow-Downs Photo Page

05-15-2007, 11:50 AM	#12
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	I declare myself willing to vote for Legate, if necessary, given that he looks far more suspicious to me than Ang. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-15-2007, 11:53 AM	#14
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	I guess it's obvious that Six is toast now, but I daresay that you made a mistake, and if not, I'm going to eat my own Orc-food... __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

05-15-2007, 11:52 AM	#16
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	Okay, now people are starting to vote Legate... What to do... Well, since this won't be a throw-away vote anymore, I will after all vote: ++Legate Hopefully, this won't turn into a double lynch toDay... EDIT: X-ed with Volo on... __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum

05-15-2007, 11:56 AM	#17
Volo Silver in My Silent Heart Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the great beauty Posts: 1,611	Diamond: ++Gil-Galad (Gil-1) Boromir: ++Boromir (Gil-1, Boro-1) Boromir: --Boromir, ++Anguirel (Gil-1, Anguirel-1) SpM: ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-1, Sixth-1) Sixth: ++Anguirel (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-1) Lommy: ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-2) Kath: ++Rune (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-2, Rune-1) Anguirel: ++Volo (Gil-1, Anguirel-2, Sixth-2, Rune-1, Volo-1) Volo: ++Anguirel (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-2, Rune-1, Volo-1) Rune: ++Volo (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-2, Rune-1, Volo-2) Mac: ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2) Mith: ++Legate (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-1) Legate: ++Ang (Gil-1, Anguirel-4, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-1) Aganzir: ++Legate (Gil-1, Anguirel-4, Sixth-3, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-2) Volo: --Ang, ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-4, Rune-1, Volo-2, Legate-2) Ang: --Volo, ++Sixth (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-5, Rune-1, Volo-1, Legate-2) Brinniel: ++Legate (Gil-1, Anguirel-3, Sixth-5, Rune-1, Volo-1, Legate-3) EDIT: Huh, xd with everything since Brinniel's vote. __________________ Fenris Wolf The EVEN NEWER Barrow-Downs Photo Page

05-15-2007, 11:57 AM	#18
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	15 vote out of a possible 19 is not great .. but better than most general elections.... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

05-15-2007, 11:57 AM	#19
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	That's six vote counts in a row!

05-15-2007, 11:58 AM	#20
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	Ah, thanks for that, both Volo and SPM. I'm less confused now... __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum