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|  05-30-2007, 01:18 PM | #1 | 
| Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells 
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			Ungoliant - Morgoth - Sauron - Shelob?
		 
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|  05-30-2007, 01:33 PM | #2 | 
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			Are you sure that Sauron and Shelob actually met? I know Sauron knew Shelob guarded the pass but I don't remember reading that they ever met each other.
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|  05-30-2007, 01:37 PM | #3 | 
| Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells 
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			I'm not sure either. I guess it's nowhere mentioned. What about the following: Ungoliant - Morgoth - Sauron - Shagrat - Shelob? I don't know for sure if Sauron and Shagrat actually met, but maybe we can assume so? Of course it depends on how many secretaries Sauron had. 
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|  05-30-2007, 01:59 PM | #4 | 
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			I do remember that Shagrat seemed to know many things about how Shelob hunted her prey, so I think its reasonable to assume he at least watched her from afar, so I'll accept it. I was actually thinking the same as you except replace Shagrat with Gollum. Gollum at some point mentions that Sauron was missing a finger so he must have been in Sauron's presence. Good job  The thread is yours. | 
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|  05-30-2007, 02:10 PM | #5 | 
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			Oh, of course.   Gollum didn't even occur to me. Well, this is probably too easy, but I'm so bad at inventing these. Fundin - Anborn. 
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|  05-30-2007, 02:26 PM | #6 | 
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			In how many people? Six? Or even less? I can say five. Fundin => Balin => Bilbo => Frodo => Anborn 
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|  05-30-2007, 03:27 PM | #7 | 
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			I bet you could even eliminate Bilbo there because I believe Balin had visit the Shire on a few occasions and met Frodo. Frodo says something about this at the Council of Elrond I believe (or somewhere along his journey to Rivendell)
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