Werewolf Four and Thirty: Bloodbath in the Anduin Vale

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Rikae

it doesn't jibe with my (admittedly fallible) impression of Kath; and the post itself seemed somehow tense or tight.

On a second look you maybe right. It's not Kath-like somehow, even though I still think Xyzzy's throw-away suspicion was the more suspicious looking...

Originally Posted by Rikae

I don't know if this is reasonable, Nogrod. I know how you like content-rich posts, but in-character banter in first posts is a bit of a WW tradition, is it not?

You're right. But I have just tried to pick anything to show that things can be done differently than just saying "Hello, I'm here... and won't be anymore". Just take this in the overall context of my agenda and you see why I said this.

Okay. Good night for now. I'll be back later.

[Isabellkya]

*waves to the others and then plops down in a chair*

Hiya everyone. I am Izzie the delegate from the village Kyaq. My father was supposed to make the journey, but he took a nasty fall when he was out hunting with his horse. So I was chosen to come in his place. If you don't mind I am mighty hungry from my journey, so I think I will go in search of some food to eat. Then I will return to discuss this problem which we all seem to have with these nasty werewolves.


*gets up and goes in search of some food*


(It is dinner time; hence the hunger.)

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

*waves to the others and then plops down in a chair*

Hiya everyone. I am Izzie the delegate from the village Kyaq. My father was supposed to make the journey, but he took a nasty fall when he was out hunting with his horse. So I was chosen to come in his place. If you don't mind I am mighty hungry from my journey, so I think I will go in search of some food to eat. Then I will return to discuss this problem which we all seem to have with these nasty werewolves.


*gets up and goes in search of some food*


(It is dinner time; hence the hunger.)

Whaaa????

OK, roleplaying is one thing, but if I didn't know better, I'd think you were sending "wolf hints" - not being the one expected (in relation to SPM's narration); and being hungry...

[xyzzy]

It was entirely flavor; I'm not seriously suspicious of someone for getting the first post!

A little jealous, though. :P

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Yes lynching quiet people have often been helpful, not always by getting wolves. . .actually we have lynched way more quiet innocents. The main problem with quiet people is that when the end of the game approaches you dare not vote for them as you do not have a clear picture of them and would rather kill someone you actually suspect.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

What I ment to say with the previouse post was that if we are going to lynch quiet people we should do it before too late in the game, so that we wont have the dilema of going after a suspect or a quiet person. (for me they are seldome the same)

[Boromir88]

It pains me to do this, because I am going to feel so bad about it; with the long history between Menel and myself. But I got a bad feeling about him already.

Welle, ye only waye I canne see to induce these Wolves to talke is to lynche ye moste unhelpfulle ones.

I must profoundly object to this one. Every day is precious, we can't just waste them by voting off unhelpful villagers, that strategy will get us into trouble and put us in a tough vice towards the end. When is it that the wolves are the unhelpful ones in the village? All wolves talk and participate to varying degrees, all to varying degrees, but never is a wolf going to appear unhelpful. There are the quiet, lay low wolves, but there is a difference between being quiet and being unhelpful.

This whole proposal Menel gets me wonderin' about your identity sir knight. Our votes are the ordinary innocents only weapon against the wolves and we must not waste days by throwing our votes away for someone who albeit it is being unhelpful, but nevertheless someone you don't find all that suspicious of. Our votes are precious and the suggestion that we waste them doesn't sit right with me.

I don'te see what possible advantage this villager woulde provide.

ummm...their vote

Your jump on xyzzy; Menel is also quite alarming...considering I really think Nogrod and you are making too much out of his first post.

not being the one expected (in relation to SPM's narration)~Rikae

I'm curious Rikae, because I have no clue what you're talking about. I am bad at picking up on clues out of the narration, so if you wouldn't mind pointing me out to the 'one not expected' in the narration, that would be great.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by "narration'

They have waylaid some of the travellers on their journey here, and assumed their identities.

Which, logically, would mean they WERE the ones expected, of course. But it is still rather eerie to have someone showing up saying "my father was supposed to come, but blah blah blah", and my first impulse was to think it was some sort of hint...possibly to or from a cobbler.

As for you, Boro, I'm surprised to see you taking the easy road of arguing against the LTQ (lynch the quiet) strategy and suspecting the one who suggests it. Surely you've seen enough quiet wolf victories...in the last two games alone, quiet wolves hung on until the end and were a thorn in our sides. A quiet player is just as likely as a vocal one to be lupine; and any lynch risks killing an ordo. In the absence of solid suspicions (which might not be absent after all by the end of the day) I'd rather see a quiet ordo (who is impossible to analyse) lynched than a vocal ordo who is helpful and easier to examine.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Except that, this being her first game and all, I'm not sure she knows exactly what a Cobbler is.

Is there some prior history between Menel and Boro that I should know about?

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

never is a wolf going to appear unhelpful

Never say never, dear. And never forget who you play with. There are a half dozen on this moot list whose potential for 'never' isn't something I'll assume about.

Originally Posted by Lommy

Here's one more supporter of "lynch someone you can't form a picture about because of his/her constant absence if you don't have a (good) reason to lynch a louder person/ a contributor"-tactics.

I agree. If within a couple days, you still have no clue who a certain player is, I think you should have no real reservations about mercilessly martyring them to the cause. In a game with evidence based entirely on language, people who shirk in their ability to use it are a waste of time and energy. In chess, you let the pawns go first.

Originally Posted by TGWBS

Yes, I agree, let's lynch all those quiet ones. Starting with that there Feanor *points*. Why does she say nothing? Why is she painting us?

Aww, I missed you too, darling. Would you like to be painted in almost-ripe-banana green? Or would you prefer blue jay blue? I'm a happy impressionist, so you might not recognize yourself by the time I'm done, but if you're lucky, I won't paint you with fangs. Give me reason to, mind you, and I'll paint a very pretty picture of you savaging the moot. I'm withholding opinion on this matter for a little while.

Originally Posted by The Sixth Wizard

Well, we know Fea has played WereWolf before, so perhaps she is just laying low deliberately... But that was a bit jumpy Shorty. We have to use SOME strategy with quiet peeps, don't we? I don't know what kind of strategy, but something.

As I'd already mentioned, I spent yesterday moving from school to home for the summer. And while I'd happily lay low deliberately, yesterday wasn't intentional. Look me up if I seem ridiculously unhelpful later on.

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I guess Fea said she's moving toDay or something, so maybe she isn't laying low deliberately.

Ooh! Somebody beat me to it. It's nice seeing people remember my words. Thanks, Aganzir.

On a side note, if you haven't realized it, I'm writing this post in chronological unedited order as I read what I've missed. So if anything is redundant or if I change my mind, it's for that reason.

Originally Posted by Tiggy

Ah. So she did. Never mind... I will try to get her lynched tomorrow instead.

My thanks for your generosity.

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

It is a bit routine to have "Lynch Boromir" as the default setting?

As a rule, I've noticed that it's routine to have "Lynch ____" as default, wherein the person whose sneakiness you most respect gets to fill in the blank. If the phantom was playing, I'd campaign for his death first day because he can't be trusted. Savvy?

In this game, the list of people I have no natural trust for (based experiencially) are:

Mormegil
Nogrod
Boromir88
Kath

And myself, but I don't count.

They would fit into a routine lynch campaign even if only for the reason that I know from watching them that their seeming is often at odds with their being. Knowing they could fool you if they wanted to doesn't make for restful moot-nights.

Still, as of right now, I have no real suspicion of any of them.

TBC--

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Fresh Snow:
Nogrod
Boromir88
Thinlómien
Legate of Amon Lanc
Kath
the guy who be short
Rune Son of Bjarne

Blood-stained:
Mormegil (perpetually so, said with love)
Mithalwen (because I say so, also with love)

Shrug-worthy:
Gil-Galad
Shastanis Althreduin
Aganzir
Rikae
Durelin
Volo
Meneltarmacil
The Sixth Wizard
Isabellkya

++XYZZY

Because I have nobody better to vote for at the moment.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Interesting I too have no trust for Mormegil . . .

Anyways I see that a small case is building up around Menel and if it continues I would not be suprised to see him lynched soon. I however will not join the cause just yet as I have a history of finding Menel suspiciouse, advocating his death, only to find him innocent. Of course this could be the time he is guilty, but just for now I shall not be voting for him.

I could actually say the same thing about Boro, i always find him a bit suspicouse. The main difference is that sometimes I am right and he is furry.

Anyways I will have to vote soon and it is going to be a pretty random vote as I have noticed anything worthy of a vote yet.

[Rikae]

Well, I used to be against it on principle, but as I look at WW from my older and wiser perspective the "lynch the quiet ones" (or at least threaten to) strategy seems more and more sensible. I've seen too many quiet wolves coast to victory...besides, keeping up a certain level of helpfulness could be seen as a villager's duty.