Werewolf Four and Thirty: Bloodbath in the Anduin Vale

[Volo]

And before anybody goes to accuse Kath: That, if anything, is her style!

[Meneltarmacil]

Welle, I am voting:

++xyzzy

He is quite silente for ye moste parte, and what he did say was pretty suspiciouse.

[Volo]

Rikae also feels like the Wolf Rikae. So, a reason not to vote for her then...

[Aganzir]

Volo, is this what you meant when you warned us in the Admin thread that your logic will be weird? Because I find this weird, if not even suspicious.

How can you think someone is innocent if you have a feeling s/he is a wolf?

[Volo]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Volo, is this what you meant when you warned us in the Admin thread that your logic will be weird? Because I find this weird, if not even suspicious.

How can you think someone is innocent if you have a feeling s/he is a wolf?

Exactly this. I think somebody whom I think Wolf is innocent, because usually they are innocent.

Originally Posted by Legate the delegate of Amon Lanc

One question to Volo: is that what you meant by saying that you'll be behaving weird here? Doing the opposite than how you feel? Trying to see if your senses always deceive you?

Yes to you too. Last - and not only last - game I was so far from catching the Wolves as possible, except after I was already dead.

Originally Posted by Legate de Legate of Amon Lanc

Who might seem a little bit suspicious to me is Nogrod, or also Meneltarmacil, "ye olde knighte". Of course Nogrod generally speaks much, why not, he's one of the stable "vocal" players. However, this time he seems a little bit sneaky, like a creeping shadow accusing here and there with thought-through intention... (that's the imagination I get from it). Normally he is more vocal and his posts seem sincere. This time I get the feeling it's somewhat slippery.

Yup, that's the one. But I'll laugh if Nogrod and Menel are Wolves, again.

What tgwbs said there is true. So, I'll vote for Xyzzy is we don't find a better alternative. After all, he'll probably remain a mystery for as long as he's here...

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Durelin is always a mystery to me so she will recive my vote.

++Durelin

(I am voting this early because I have to go to work soon and wont be back until 30 min after the deadline)

[Volo]

Well, I'd rather vote Xyzzy than Durelin as she is proven a great player. Give her a chance!

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Volo

Yup, that's the one. But I'll laugh if Nogrod and Menel are Wolves, again. :

What do you mean by "again"?

Originally Posted by Volo

What tgwbs said there is true. So, I'll vote for Xyzzy is we don't find a better alternative. After all, he'll probably remain a mystery for as long as he's here...

Hmm, I think xyzzy was sort of more active toDay than he usually is (well, mainly by the vote for Kath) As I said, I don't like lynching the quiet - btw why don't you lynch morm then? It will be the most logical, because he didn't appear yet! (<=this is a joke, of course, but it has logic in it: if I were for the idea you present here, I'd lynch him, since he didn't say anything, point.)

[Boromir88]

Never say never, dear. And never forget who you play with.~Fea

When I say 'never' I mean I would bet the farm. And afterall by your own admission how do you know what's going on in this complex head of mine? Maybe I'm using reverse-psychology, maybe I'm not, maybe I'm setting a trap...or maybe I'm only making the wolves believe that I'm setting a trap? Or maybe I only want to make the wolves think that I'm thinking about setting a trap. You get in their heads and get them doubting, aye, make them as lost to knowing our thoughts as we are to knowing who they are.

Well Delegate from Amon Lanc, I wouldn't say no one is objecting. I raised my concerns...though now as staunch as no doubt you have done. But, nevertheless I addressed some problems and hence when one who propsoses this idea (Menel) is my primary target.

I'm much more in line with Nogrod's thinking:

If there is a reason to lynch someone who is active, let's lynch her/him, but if not then let's pick the ones who try to ride for free. Okay?

I would like to add the qualifier of let it not just be a randomly selected quiet person, but at least someone who we get a wierd feeling about.

The reason I am suspicious of Menel, is because it came off to me as if he was saying something almost completely different from Nogrod. And that was let's just start lynching unhelpful people to make the wolves talk. When we recklessly charge forward with one consensus and plan as far as what to do, it's far too easy for the wolves to jump on and manipulate what's going on.

So, my proposal is, let everyone do whatever the heck they want and go after the people they find to be suspicious. Umm...isn't that basically how it's happened all these years of cursed villages? To have one plan of 'we will lynch the quiet to make the wolves talk' the wolve no exactly what we will be doing and therefor it is much easier for them to manipulate what is going to happen. Not only that but it puts us in a tough bind at the end when we wasted away all these days of what could have been quality wolf-hunting and don't have any more days to waste!

I think the risk is far too great. Not only will the wolves be able to manipulate who gets lynched (as they will know this 'plan') but it seems mostly random, so there is a minute chance to find a wolf and we have no idea how many gifted we have to help us, so there may be a greater chance that we whack a gifted (as Legate brings up).

So, yes, I say each person do whatever the heck they want, just say whatever the heck they want. What's wrong with doing it the old fashion way? Pah, I spit on all these whacked out crackpot plans that is creating a wide village consenus.

[Volo]

Originally Posted by delegate de Legate of Amon Lanc

What do you mean by "again"?

Just a WW from ago. The one modded by Glirdan with both Menel and Nogrod as Wolves. My first game.

Originally Posted by delegate de Legate of Amon Lanc

Hmm, I think xyzzy was sort of more active toDay than he usually is (well, mainly by the vote for Kath) As I said, I don't like lynching the quiet - btw why don't you lynch morm then? It will be the most logical, because he didn't appear yet! (<=this is a joke, of course, but it has logic in it: if I were for the idea you present here, I'd lynch him, since he didn't say anything, point.)

The logic is not about the players whom we know to contribute. Though it sure would be nice if Durelin and Mormegil would speak up!

Rikae's accusation of Izzie is very wierd and from my perspective a good cover for a Wolf (remembering my own Wolf-game). There are loads of ways to relay information and anyway, f.ex. Nogrod talk could be as message-filled as Izzie's...

Boro feels innocent because of his opinion about LTQ (lynch the quiet) and how he phrases it. Though you never know with Boro, and my logic telling me vote for him...

Aganzir feels evil and helpful, so probably is good.

tgwbs feels very good and helpful, so could be evil.
(I don't want to vote either of the two now.)

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Agan

I don't think a newbie-wolf would, or even could, be brave enough to try to catch the eye of the cobbler, when there's a risk that someone else notices it too.

I wouldn't be so sure. I did just that as a newbie wolf myself.

Honesty, as I read over the thread I was composing my own post in my head, and had decided long before I got to Kath's vote that I would say that she was the one who felt most evil to me. Now, seeing that she voted for me, this might appear to be vengence; but what can I say...there was something about her posts that feels very calculated and very tense. It's not much, but it was the strongest hint of wolfishness I had seen so far.
I also don't know why she claims that I'm defending my ideas instead of being constructive. I didn't think I was doing that...or being testy for that matter. I simply don't feel like beating around in the bush this time around.
Actually, though, Kath's somewhat defensive response makes me suspect her less; but I am still uneasy about her.

Xyzzy could be worth voting for today. Mind you, I don't think he's done anything overtly suspicious; but Day1's usually end in the lynching of an innocent who is either quite talkative or behaving erratically - and these will be the very people who will be easier to read later on. I admit, I am on principle opposed to the "I'm quiet, take it or leave it" attitude Xyzzy displays, and if he's a wolf, he might just coast to victory while the rest of us kill those who make more noise. If he's innocent, at least his death means a more active ordo won't die in his stead.

One other thing...I have a feeling Lommy's buttering me up. Watch it, girlie, I haven't forgotten how you tried to steal my man!