15 LOTR actors sue New Line - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

The Might · 06-03-2007, 02:11 PM

Of course...look at FotR, right in the beginning.
Gil-Galad is shown fighting against Sauron.

MatthewM · 06-03-2007, 10:27 PM

Pretty interesting. There are action figures of Ugluk, Gamling, Haldir, Shagrat, Gorbag, King of the Dead, and Gil Galad. The mentioned and the rest were pictured on the trading cards. This must be what they are sueing for? What else would it be?

Elmo · 06-04-2007, 03:31 AM

Greed

Sauron the White · 06-04-2007, 07:01 AM

And you would define GREED how? Perhaps feeling that you are entitled to what the contract agreed you would get? Sounds to me that is more like justice.

Knight of Gondor · 06-30-2007, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Might

Of course...look at FotR, right in the beginning.
Gil-Galad is shown fighting against Sauron.

Never saw him fighting Sauron, dude. Elendil and Isildur were mainly shown doing that. Gil-Galad was just shown stabbing someone. For such a pivotal character, he got precious little screen time. And he looked so cool too.

Boromir88 · 06-30-2007, 11:08 PM

Knight, well Gil did say Gil-galad was fighting against Sauron, not that he fought Sauron...there's a difference.

Well, Gil, I would call it GREED, but GREED upon the part of Newline not the actors. Corps do this quite a bit. If the actors claim is true than they were guaranteed a certain cut from the profit off merchandising (and if it is Newline using their faces to make 'money' off of, then I can't blame the actors) and it seems as if they were cheated from their proper cut.

It all depends upon the contracts though...as the World Poker Tour (WPT) is facing a lawsuit from several professional poker players saying pretty much the same thing as the actors of LOTR. The WPT is using their faces to make money and they want to see some of that money. The key difference is there is nothing in the pro poker players contracts that guarantees they get a cut of the profit...in fact it directly states that the WPT may use the pro players faces for merchandising all they want because in return the poker pros are getting their face on TV and taking a chance of winning millions. So, it was them who signed themselves over to the 'devil' so to speak. Where the LOTR contracts it seems like it specifically states these actors were guaranteed part of the profit and they never got their cut.

sallkid · 07-01-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight of Gondor

Never saw him fighting Sauron, dude. Elendil and Isildur were mainly shown doing that. Gil-Galad was just shown stabbing someone. For such a pivotal character, he got precious little screen time. And he looked so cool too.

The point of the lawsuit is the merchandise though, and gil-galad has been merchandised. There was an action figure, i believe he was in the card sets and he was in the GW game.

Knight of Gondor · 07-05-2007, 09:11 PM

I know there was a Gil-Galad action figure, because I have it.

06-03-2007, 02:11 PM	#1
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Of course...look at FotR, right in the beginning. Gil-Galad is shown fighting against Sauron. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

06-03-2007, 10:27 PM	#2
MatthewM Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 628	Pretty interesting. There are action figures of Ugluk, Gamling, Haldir, Shagrat, Gorbag, King of the Dead, and Gil Galad. The mentioned and the rest were pictured on the trading cards. This must be what they are sueing for? What else would it be? __________________ "Loud and clear it sounds in the valleys of the hills...and then let all the foes of Gondor flee!" -Boromir, The Fellowship of the Ring

06-04-2007, 03:31 AM	#3
Elmo Pittodrie Poltergeist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: trying to find that warm and winding lane again Posts: 633	Greed __________________ As Beren looked into her eyes within the shadows of her hair, The trembling starlight of the skies he saw there mirrored shimmering.

06-30-2007, 11:08 PM	#6
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Knight, well Gil did say Gil-galad was fighting against Sauron, not that he fought Sauron...there's a difference. Well, Gil, I would call it GREED, but GREED upon the part of Newline not the actors. Corps do this quite a bit. If the actors claim is true than they were guaranteed a certain cut from the profit off merchandising (and if it is Newline using their faces to make 'money' off of, then I can't blame the actors) and it seems as if they were cheated from their proper cut. It all depends upon the contracts though...as the World Poker Tour (WPT) is facing a lawsuit from several professional poker players saying pretty much the same thing as the actors of LOTR. The WPT is using their faces to make money and they want to see some of that money. The key difference is there is nothing in the pro poker players contracts that guarantees they get a cut of the profit...in fact it directly states that the WPT may use the pro players faces for merchandising all they want because in return the poker pros are getting their face on TV and taking a chance of winning millions. So, it was them who signed themselves over to the 'devil' so to speak. Where the LOTR contracts it seems like it specifically states these actors were guaranteed part of the profit and they never got their cut. __________________ Fenris Penguin

07-05-2007, 09:11 PM	#8
Knight of Gondor Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 744	I know there was a Gil-Galad action figure, because I have it. __________________ Eagerly awaiting the REAL Return of the King - Jesus Christ! Revelation 19:11-16

06-04-2007, 07:01 AM	#4
Sauron the White Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 903	And you would define GREED how? Perhaps feeling that you are entitled to what the contract agreed you would get? Sounds to me that is more like justice.