Werewolf Four and Thirty: Bloodbath in the Anduin Vale

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

Night 5

The Black Claw Wolves hunted Boro

Did you forget something from here or am I confused about what happened? Like "the shapeshifter hunted Nogrod" as well going on during the Night5?

I did give The Sixth a free choice of a kill that Night as I was away - I myself would have strongly objected to killing (hunting) Boro as we didn't know of his powers and he would have been an easy (well... easier) lynch the next Day as with either Volo or Morm something like a case should have to be produced... and with Boro it would have been there already as "the wolves were obviously gone" but the killing still continued.

But this far I have thought that Boro indeed hunted me and that's the reason why we both were dead in the morning.

~*~

The thief was an excellent role! It's kind of sad Dury did not get to play it longer...

The same holds with the Priestess. It would have been a great role later in the game. Sorry Kath but we didn't know that...

EDIT: Xd with Spm

[Isabellkya]

That was a good game; thanks SPM!!

Yeah that first day vote for Xyzzy; that was purely random. I honestly didn't really know what to do; I felt kind of pressured to make a vote. With really no clue as to who.

I have played many Werewolf games before, just not as analytical as this one. So it was a lot of fun.

Last saturday and sunday, did get really hectic; so technically I told the truth the entire time, and never really lied I think.

It makes perfect sense why Sixth and Nogrod were relentless in attacking me; they were wolves!! You little devils you.


Sorry I couldn't live longer teammates; I've just been evil for awhile now.. and it has been putting a strain on my brain muscles!!

[Volo]

Originally Posted by Lommy

My apologies to Boro for a rather...um... fierce attack. (Actually, when I reread your posts you seemed very genuine actually, but I chose reason over feeling and stuck with my theory. I was also afraid of making a 180 degree turn in my opinions, because I thought that would just get me, an innocent, lynched in a critical point. And see what happened... )

I really don't understand what's wrong with umm... "flip-flopping". On the contrary, I'd feel much more scared with somebody always repeating the same and staying safe with it. A jump from the safe-mode is mostly a sign of an Innocent, or it has been in the games I've played in.

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

so technically I told the truth the entire time, and never really lied I think.

That's what I love about being Wolf, and would probably hate in being Cobbler. And don't you make a Cobbler out of me, Legate!

Originally Posted by Mith

I don't think I used trickery. Obeying "Phantom's Law" everything I said was true or potentially true - we did think that there would be a set of circumstances in which the packs would unite - possibly choosing the same kill.

Good law!

The talk about dropping off two Wolf teams on Day5: I don't think that was the case, ok I was away most of the Day, but I didn't feel that it was the case. Although it was Night4 with the most theories from me. I just lost hope in them the last Days and that's probably the reason I didn't survive: Too much assumption with not pointing (the obvious to me) reasons.

Night4 had a wonderful theory about two Wolf teams with three players both. A "lady team" and "gentleman team" (as it even turned out to be in the end). I thought that the Wolves could have a united victory and that made things very clear at the time (though they weren't like that as I later found out): Nogrod's and Menel's team (Nogrod being only an assumption) would have killed Rune, Legate and tgwbs. Mith's and Izzie's team would have killed Durelin, Rikae and Fea. I was 99,99% sure that Aganzir would die that Night, but it never occured (though I feard it) that she would die as a Wolf. That of course ruined my logic of catching Lommy-Wolf. I abandoned that theory because of Mith's "the others can deal with him" (Referring to killing Boro) and as it was one of the "lady team" who "killed" Boro, the logic was flawed. And it all ended up with voting Lommy, which was a fatal mistake, as at about that time I started hoping that it would be only 5 Wolves and killing Gil would have been just foolish as he was more innocent than the Innocents.

I am even more more impressed with you Wolves now that I've seen your Nightly words. I saw that Boro was special after his hints on Day2, but I never noticed anything like that about Legate!

Great game, great game... (though the rift between different levels of players made it hard, I really wish the Junior games were still up)

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Volo

Great game, great game... (though the rift between different levels of players made it hard, I really wish the Junior games were still up)

As a teacher I have always believed in the method of dropping the students in to the high seas / deep waters (whatever your idiom is) and to see how they can manage themselves ashore... I think that goes with WW as well. I think fex. Xyzzy, Shasta and Isabell have learned much of this our way of playing the werewolf with their participation and I'd hope to see them all in future games getting even more involved and playing the "analytical werewolf" as someone of them (Isabell?) called it back in this game. It's so much more fun and challenging than just making random in-character posts all the game through...

I really don't understand what's wrong with umm... "flip-flopping". On the contrary, I'd feel much more scared with somebody always repeating the same and staying safe with it. A jump from the safe-mode is mostly a sign of an Innocent, or it has been in the games I've played in.

I do agree with you here! The ones who seem to be sure about their choises are more suspicioius to me than those who make it openly "might be and might be not". The latter honestly care about the outcome - the first ones just love to make the lynch the way they see fit as they know the situation... There are exceptions though but anyhow that's my general feeling... like people who really find out the baddies!

So no rule to be taken here but consideration case by case... and that's the hard part!

[Volo]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Xyzzy, Shasta and Isabell...

Umm... I was talking about myself.

Thank you

[Mithalwen]

Oh I wanted to say how much I enjoyed my death scene. Having been summarily killed in my first game, I do appreciate a good death - and I doubt I will ever again be as silver tongued.

[the guy who be short]

To SpM:

Re: the randomizer (to balance the game)
What did you use? Did you create some sort of programme or algorithm (wouldn't put it past you) or did you just use some sort of random number generator and lots of time?

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Volo

I just lost hope in them the last Days and that's probably the reason I didn't survive: Too much assumption with not pointing (the obvious to me) reasons.

Exactly! You should be more outspoken my friend! You have a keen eye and nice instincts! Just spell the reasons more openly and people will trust them more easily. Now you oftentimes just state the end-result of your ponderings and leave us all others in shadow of what you really meant and why!

Just pointing a finger is mainly suspicious but giving a reason for that looks much better. Remember this basic rule! (Which doesn't always work but it depends of the game - you should also be able to "sniff" the athmosphere of the village you're playing in to reach the right balance).

But you played well indeed this time - and I've heard you were marvellous the last time (I've not have time to read it through)... so just keep the track-record and get better! You have all it needs to be a great werewolfer!