Ainulindale in Latin - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Wanderer of Light · 09-07-2007, 02:06 PM

Did you write it in church-Latin or Classical Latin?

Aiwendil · 09-07-2007, 03:05 PM

My aim was Classical Latin, though I didn't hesitate to use a few ecclesiastical words when appropriate (like 'daemon'). But I think the style tends toward later imperial Latin rather than that of Caesar or Cicero.

Wanderer of Light · 10-06-2007, 12:05 PM

How far are you with translating the next bit?

I really can't wait for it

....

Although it is quit troublesome I can understand most of it with aid of a dictionairy and my school book

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Aiwendil · 10-07-2007, 02:05 PM

Not far, I'm afraid. Though I am working on it.

Aiwendil · 10-31-2010, 09:20 PM

Well, after more than three years I've put revised versions of the Ainulindale and the Valaquenta, as well as what I've done so far of the Quenta Silmarillion up here. I've decided to base my translations not on the '77 published Silmarillion but rather on what one might consider the 'veritable' documents from Middle-earth. The upshot of this for these early chapters is that some material found in 'Of the Beginning of Days' in the published book is here placed in the Ainulindale, Tolkien's original chapter titles have been used, and the text concerning the Ents and Eagles has been broken off as a separate chapter from 'Of Aule and the Dwarves'.

Any comments, criticisms, or (especially) suggestions or corrections would be greatly appreciated!

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 11-01-2010, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wanderer of Light

How far are you with translating the next bit?

I really can't wait for it

....

Whoa! Zoetermeer? If you're still haunting these parts, Wanderer, then you'll have to know that there are a couple of Downers who have visited your town.

Great stuff, Aiwendil. I will check that out when I have some time.

The Might · 11-01-2010, 03:40 PM

Flamma Immortale !!!

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-01-2010, 05:08 PM

The other chapters are pretty cool to have - must have been quite a job. I have to read them when I have a piece of free time

findorfin · 11-17-2010, 09:05 AM

This makes me wish I had continued studying Latin at Uni!

09-07-2007, 02:06 PM	#1
Wanderer of Light Pile O'Bones Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Zoetermeer, The Netherlands Posts: 11	Did you write it in church-Latin or Classical Latin? __________________ "Ick ben de opstandinge ende het leven: die in my gelooft sal leven/ alwaer hy oock gestorven:" ^ Joannis 11:25

10-06-2007, 12:05 PM	#3
Wanderer of Light Pile O'Bones Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Zoetermeer, The Netherlands Posts: 11	How far are you with translating the next bit? I really can't wait for it .... Although it is quit troublesome I can understand most of it with aid of a dictionairy and my school book . __________________ "Ick ben de opstandinge ende het leven: die in my gelooft sal leven/ alwaer hy oock gestorven:" ^ Joannis 11:25

11-01-2010, 03:40 PM	#7
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Flamma Immortale !!! __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

11-01-2010, 05:08 PM	#8
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	The other chapters are pretty cool to have - must have been quite a job. I have to read them when I have a piece of free time __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

09-07-2007, 03:05 PM	#2
Aiwendil Late Istar Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,224	My aim was Classical Latin, though I didn't hesitate to use a few ecclesiastical words when appropriate (like 'daemon'). But I think the style tends toward later imperial Latin rather than that of Caesar or Cicero.

10-07-2007, 02:05 PM	#4
Aiwendil Late Istar Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,224	Not far, I'm afraid. Though I am working on it.

10-31-2010, 09:20 PM	#5
Aiwendil Late Istar Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,224	Well, after more than three years I've put revised versions of the Ainulindale and the Valaquenta, as well as what I've done so far of the Quenta Silmarillion up here. I've decided to base my translations not on the '77 published Silmarillion but rather on what one might consider the 'veritable' documents from Middle-earth. The upshot of this for these early chapters is that some material found in 'Of the Beginning of Days' in the published book is here placed in the Ainulindale, Tolkien's original chapter titles have been used, and the text concerning the Ents and Eagles has been broken off as a separate chapter from 'Of Aule and the Dwarves'. Any comments, criticisms, or (especially) suggestions or corrections would be greatly appreciated!

11-17-2010, 09:05 AM	#9
findorfin Newly Deceased Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6	This makes me wish I had continued studying Latin at Uni!