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Findegil · 09-18-2007, 06:34 AM

I think it time to try a rescue of this project before it is completely forgotten by all its former active members.

Since I believe all of us need an update were we stand I will give an overview here. I try to keep the order in which we started the work on the chapters, but don’t take that to serious:

The Fall of Gondolin (FoG): Done. With some new comments on the Names of Rog and Laegolas, but nothing that was convincing so fare.

The Darkening of Valinor (DoV): Done.

Ainulindalë (AINU): Done. (Even the Yavanna as a tree discussion has found an end, even so I do not yet know exactly why the version we settled at was superior to a footnote.)

Valaquenta (Vala): Done.

Of the Voyage of Eärendil & Of the Great Battle and the War of Wrath (VE): Done.

Of the Ruin of Doriath (RD): Done. With the single exception of the question of Andróg as member of Húrins Band, which is discussed in Narn I Chîn Húrin 1: Túrins Fostering.

Narn i Chîn Húrin (Narn; NA): Changes from The Children of Húrin are proposed but not yet discussed. Some further adds are proposed but although not yet discussed. In this chapter obviously the point to restart the project.

Narn Beren ion Barahir or Narn e•Dinúviel (BL): Done.

For the Silmarillion chapters up to „11 Of the flight of the Noldor“ and the chapter “21 Of the Ruin of Beleriand and the Fall of Fingolfin” I have drafts ready for posting. But I will not undertake the wok to bring them in postable form before the discussion of the Narn is not done.

That is were we are. Is there still enough interest in the project to keep it alive?

For my part the question is answered with a clear yes, but I don’t see myself doing it alone. I know very well that had I done the work so fare alone it would have be much less good than the results of the group work.

Respectfully
Findegil

Maédhros · 09-20-2007, 07:54 AM

You are not alone Findegil, but so far, you are the one that has done most of the work.
I happen to have a certain amount of time now that I will put forth in the project. Remember Findegil that we had exchanged our drafts from different parts of the Sil.
I will post later this week my sugestions regarding the changes that you have proposed in the Narn. Sadly, I have received my new Children of Húrin this last month, so now I have the tools to look them up.

Aiwendil · 09-20-2007, 04:14 PM

Thanks for the prod, Findegil. I certainly am still interested in the project but have (quite typically) let it fall by the wayside. I will make an effort to get back into things.

Findegil · 09-21-2007, 12:51 AM

Puh, I am glade you two are still at my side.

I am not anxious of doing the text work, which Maedhros call "most of the work". It flows easy from my hand than, I anticipate that restricting my wild ideas and bind me with the rules of the project is much harder.

Looking forward to interesting discussions.

Respectfuly
Findegil

Aaront596 · 10-23-2007, 10:31 PM

Hi I started making my own piecing together of the fall of Gondolin and in researching it I found where you guys had be working on one and so I want to join so I can read it and many other stories such as beren and luthien. I don't know how much help I’ll be but I would love to and I mean love to be able to read the work you guys have done. Can I sign up and get access to the writing you guys have produced?
Please let me know how. Thanx
Sincerely,
Aaron Smith

emrys · 10-24-2007, 06:09 AM

Greetings to everyone,

Not so much time ago I finally decided to complete my readings of Tolkien material with a new reading of HoME and consequently I started to organize my Tolkien ebook collection tryng to do a job very similar to what you all are doing with this fantastic project.

Than I discovered this site and found that you guys have already done an amazing work! so first of all let me congratulate with all of you.

That sayd, if there is some work to do to give a contribute to the project I will be very happy to join.

Findegil · 10-24-2007, 12:14 PM

Hello and a heartly welcome to Aaront596 and emry!

To join the project is very simple: read in the threads here in the forum and start commenting on the changes we proposed.

In time when you have shown a real interest you will get a password for the members only forum, which will give you access to some helpful compilations. This access is not a must have for the discussions it is only a helpful addition. In former times a simple message likes your would have been sufficient to get the password but we ended up with a long list of members which never became active. Therfore we only give it now after a time of active participation in the discussions.

See posting 100 in this thread for an oferview of were we are. When we considre a chapter done, that does not mean that you might not start a new discussion on it, but it might be easier to start with a still open topic. Therefore I would recomment to start with reading the following threads:
Narn I Chîn Húrin 1: Túrins Fostering
The Narn i Chîn Húrin: Beleg & Falivirn
Narn i Chîn Húrin 3: The End of the Narn

Respectfully
Findegil

09-20-2007, 07:54 AM	#2
Maédhros The Kinslayer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Formenos Posts: 658	You are not alone Findegil, but so far, you are the one that has done most of the work. I happen to have a certain amount of time now that I will put forth in the project. Remember Findegil that we had exchanged our drafts from different parts of the Sil. I will post later this week my sugestions regarding the changes that you have proposed in the Narn. Sadly, I have received my new Children of Húrin this last month, so now I have the tools to look them up. __________________ "Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio; a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy."

10-23-2007, 10:31 PM	#5
Aaront596 Pile O'Bones Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Louisville KY USA Posts: 21	like to join Hi I started making my own piecing together of the fall of Gondolin and in researching it I found where you guys had be working on one and so I want to join so I can read it and many other stories such as beren and luthien. I don't know how much help I’ll be but I would love to and I mean love to be able to read the work you guys have done. Can I sign up and get access to the writing you guys have produced? Please let me know how. Thanx Sincerely, Aaron Smith

10-24-2007, 06:09 AM	#6
emrys Pile O'Bones Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 12	Hello! Greetings to everyone, Not so much time ago I finally decided to complete my readings of Tolkien material with a new reading of HoME and consequently I started to organize my Tolkien ebook collection tryng to do a job very similar to what you all are doing with this fantastic project. Than I discovered this site and found that you guys have already done an amazing work! so first of all let me congratulate with all of you. That sayd, if there is some work to do to give a contribute to the project I will be very happy to join.

09-18-2007, 06:34 AM	#1
Findegil King's Writer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,721	I think it time to try a rescue of this project before it is completely forgotten by all its former active members. Since I believe all of us need an update were we stand I will give an overview here. I try to keep the order in which we started the work on the chapters, but don’t take that to serious: The Fall of Gondolin (FoG): Done. With some new comments on the Names of Rog and Laegolas, but nothing that was convincing so fare. The Darkening of Valinor (DoV): Done. Ainulindalë (AINU): Done. (Even the Yavanna as a tree discussion has found an end, even so I do not yet know exactly why the version we settled at was superior to a footnote.) Valaquenta (Vala): Done. Of the Voyage of Eärendil & Of the Great Battle and the War of Wrath (VE): Done. Of the Ruin of Doriath (RD): Done. With the single exception of the question of Andróg as member of Húrins Band, which is discussed in Narn I Chîn Húrin 1: Túrins Fostering. Narn i Chîn Húrin (Narn; NA): Changes from The Children of Húrin are proposed but not yet discussed. Some further adds are proposed but although not yet discussed. In this chapter obviously the point to restart the project. Narn Beren ion Barahir or Narn e•Dinúviel (BL): Done. For the Silmarillion chapters up to „11 Of the flight of the Noldor“ and the chapter “21 Of the Ruin of Beleriand and the Fall of Fingolfin” I have drafts ready for posting. But I will not undertake the wok to bring them in postable form before the discussion of the Narn is not done. That is were we are. Is there still enough interest in the project to keep it alive? For my part the question is answered with a clear yes, but I don’t see myself doing it alone. I know very well that had I done the work so fare alone it would have be much less good than the results of the group work. Respectfully Findegil

09-20-2007, 04:14 PM	#3
Aiwendil Late Istar Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,224	Thanks for the prod, Findegil. I certainly am still interested in the project but have (quite typically) let it fall by the wayside. I will make an effort to get back into things.

09-21-2007, 12:51 AM	#4
Findegil King's Writer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,721	Puh, I am glade you two are still at my side. I am not anxious of doing the text work, which Maedhros call "most of the work". It flows easy from my hand than, I anticipate that restricting my wild ideas and bind me with the rules of the project is much harder. Looking forward to interesting discussions. Respectfuly Findegil

10-24-2007, 12:14 PM	#7
Findegil King's Writer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,721	Hello and a heartly welcome to Aaront596 and emry! To join the project is very simple: read in the threads here in the forum and start commenting on the changes we proposed. In time when you have shown a real interest you will get a password for the members only forum, which will give you access to some helpful compilations. This access is not a must have for the discussions it is only a helpful addition. In former times a simple message likes your would have been sufficient to get the password but we ended up with a long list of members which never became active. Therfore we only give it now after a time of active participation in the discussions. See posting 100 in this thread for an oferview of were we are. When we considre a chapter done, that does not mean that you might not start a new discussion on it, but it might be easier to start with a still open topic. Therefore I would recomment to start with reading the following threads: Narn I Chîn Húrin 1: Túrins Fostering The Narn i Chîn Húrin: Beleg & Falivirn Narn i Chîn Húrin 3: The End of the Narn Respectfully Findegil