The Route of the Ring - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-08-2007, 04:17 PM

No problem

Oh, all right. It's clear then. Of course, you are right on what you say.

The Might · 11-09-2007, 09:29 AM

Boring, now we must find something new to argue about.

Meriadoc1961 · 11-15-2007, 03:56 PM

One thing that I had not noticed until following this thread is that it would seem the question of who would have been more powerful, Gandalf or the Witch King, has been answered. If Gandalf feared taking the ring near Saruman through the Pass of Rohan more than facing Moria, then it would seem that in his glorified state Gandalf would have easily dispensed the Witch King. After all, he did vanquish the Balrog in his pre-"resurrected" self, a Balrog who should have been very close in powers to Sauron himself.

Merry

The Might · 11-15-2007, 04:21 PM

I doubt that a "power ranking can ever be made".
As far as these things are concerned it is clear from the book that
Gandalf > Saruman and
Gandalf > Witch-king, however in a letter, I believe #256 we are told that
Gandalf wearing the Ring ~ Sauron without it and also it is said that it makes sense the Valar would send a coeval and equal in power spirit to Sauron's downfall.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-15-2007, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Meriadoc1961

One thing that I had not noticed until following this thread is that it would seem the question of who would have been more powerful, Gandalf or the Witch King, has been answered. If Gandalf feared taking the ring near Saruman through the Pass of Rohan more than facing Moria, then it would seem that in his glorified state Gandalf would have easily dispensed the Witch King. After all, he did vanquish the Balrog in his pre-"resurrected" self, a Balrog who should have been very close in powers to Sauron himself.

When he was without the Ring. But you are missing one important thing: Gandalf was victorious only by a tiny bit. And, mainly, he "died".

11-08-2007, 04:17 PM	#1
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	No problem Oh, all right. It's clear then. Of course, you are right on what you say. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-15-2007, 03:56 PM	#3
Meriadoc1961 Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 101	One thing that I had not noticed until following this thread is that it would seem the question of who would have been more powerful, Gandalf or the Witch King, has been answered. If Gandalf feared taking the ring near Saruman through the Pass of Rohan more than facing Moria, then it would seem that in his glorified state Gandalf would have easily dispensed the Witch King. After all, he did vanquish the Balrog in his pre-"resurrected" self, a Balrog who should have been very close in powers to Sauron himself. Merry __________________ "If I yawn again, I shall split at the ears!"

11-15-2007, 04:21 PM	#4
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I doubt that a "power ranking can ever be made". As far as these things are concerned it is clear from the book that Gandalf > Saruman and Gandalf > Witch-king, however in a letter, I believe #256 we are told that Gandalf wearing the Ring ~ Sauron without it and also it is said that it makes sense the Valar would send a coeval and equal in power spirit to Sauron's downfall. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

11-09-2007, 09:29 AM	#2
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Boring, now we must find something new to argue about. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown