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Narya · 03-29-2002, 10:13 AM

Do you know how long the childhood of elves is? I read somewhere that an Elf has got 50 years of childhood. But does this mean that they grow in 50 years from a newborn child to adults and that their bodies don´t get any older after that? I was wondering about the exact point of time they stop growing.
I know that you cannot compare the life and development of elves to the life of humans, but do you know anything else?

[ March 29, 2002: Message edited by: Narya ]

Elenglin · 03-29-2002, 10:39 AM

Good Question.
I think, that the elf-body grow's up just like human's do, but the elf-minb does take the 50 yrs to gather all the knowledge and the skills that elves have.
That's an explanation to why elves are so much more wiser and powerful than humans: the elf-childhood is longer, so the lurn more.

(Eh? Sounds crappy, I had so great theory in my mind. It's just hard to turn in to words of another language than my mothertongue is.)

Narya · 03-29-2002, 10:52 AM

Yeah, I had that in mind, too Elenglin. I couldn´t believe the Elven minds need 50 years to develop.

Niere-Teleliniel · 03-29-2002, 03:12 PM

i wish i could enlighten you all, but elven growth and development is a SECRET best left undiscovered lest a curse fall upon you all! [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] (translated: i have nooooooo clue)

Starbreeze · 03-29-2002, 03:40 PM

Hmm, I wondered about this, but I still don't know the answer. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

The-Elf-Herself · 03-30-2002, 08:52 AM

Hmmm, I'm not sure but think I heard somewhere that it takes them fifty years to reach full "adulthood", and then after that they may age very, verrrrrrrry slooowly. Y'know, like if they ever get tired of the world(don't quote me on this; as I said this is partially hearsay).

Aralaithiel · 03-30-2002, 10:44 AM

Yep, 50 is the correct number. May seem like a long time, but when you're immortal... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Nufaciel · 03-30-2002, 10:51 AM

Let me give you a hint: all this information can be found inside "Morgoth's Ring" Volume X (I think) of the History of Middle-earth series. It's in the section about the customs of the Eldar (or something like that).

Narya · 03-31-2002, 08:41 AM

Thanks to you all.
Nufaciel, I´m just reading the Silmarillion [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] , but I´ll start hoME soon...

Gayahithwen · 03-31-2002, 10:08 AM

Nufaciel --> I'm not sure HoME has come out in Sweden yet, but I am looking for it..

Aroaraniel · 03-31-2002, 01:46 PM

I'm still not on the S yet...I'm pretty sure it'll take me awhile, though...hehehe it takes awhile to process through the ole noggin... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Eärendil · 03-31-2002, 02:11 PM

Gayahithwen - Two of the HOME books have been translated into Swedish, The Books of Lost Tales 1 & 2, I have them btw.. No others have been translated, but I hope they will be soon!

Groin Redbeard · 11-09-2007, 04:19 PM

It is said: "Never go to the Elves for council for they shall give yes and a no for an answer."

03-29-2002, 10:13 AM	#1
Narya Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: not here... floating down the Liffey Posts: 124	Life of Elves Do you know how long the childhood of elves is? I read somewhere that an Elf has got 50 years of childhood. But does this mean that they grow in 50 years from a newborn child to adults and that their bodies don´t get any older after that? I was wondering about the exact point of time they stop growing. I know that you cannot compare the life and development of elves to the life of humans, but do you know anything else? [ March 29, 2002: Message edited by: Narya ] __________________ ...for we know the joy of life is the peace* that love can bring* So spoke the wizard in his mountain home.

03-29-2002, 10:39 AM	#2
Elenglin Pile O'Bones Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 24	Good Question. I think, that the elf-body grow's up just like human's do, but the elf-minb does take the 50 yrs to gather all the knowledge and the skills that elves have. That's an explanation to why elves are so much more wiser and powerful than humans: the elf-childhood is longer, so the lurn more. (Eh? Sounds crappy, I had so great theory in my mind. It's just hard to turn in to words of another language than my mothertongue is.) __________________ "Sinun pelloillasi on jättiläinen, suunnattoman suuri jättiläinen, ja hän on tulossa tähän suuntaan", koira sanoi. "Apua! Apua! Hän talloo jalkoihinsa sinun lampaasi. Hän on astunut Galathea-raukan päälle, ja se on lituskainen kuin kynnysmatto. Apua! Apua! Hän ruhjoo kaikki sinun pensasaitasi ja hän survoo kaiken viljasi. Sinun täytyy toimia rohkeasti ja nopeasti, isäntä, tai kohta sinulla ei ole mitään jäljellä! Apua!" Garm puhkesi ulvomaan.

03-29-2002, 10:52 AM	#3
Narya Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: not here... floating down the Liffey Posts: 124	Yeah, I had that in mind, too Elenglin. I couldn´t believe the Elven minds need 50 years to develop. __________________ ...for we know the joy of life is the peace* that love can bring* So spoke the wizard in his mountain home.

03-29-2002, 03:12 PM	#4
Niere-Teleliniel Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a messy room on the third floor. Posts: 67	i wish i could enlighten you all, but elven growth and development is a SECRET best left undiscovered lest a curse fall upon you all! [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] (translated: i have nooooooo clue) __________________ He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.... ~Douglas Adams

03-29-2002, 03:40 PM	#5
Starbreeze Ghost of a Smile Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mirkwood - Middle Earth Posts: 389	Hmm, I wondered about this, but I still don't know the answer. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] __________________ Do not tamper with the affairs of wizards, they are not all that subtle - Terry Pratchett To write is to make dreams, to make dreams is to awaken the fantasy of the mind, to awaken the mind is to be a master.

03-30-2002, 08:52 AM	#6
The-Elf-Herself Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mithlond Posts: 74	Hmmm, I'm not sure but think I heard somewhere that it takes them fifty years to reach full "adulthood", and then after that they may age very, verrrrrrrry slooowly. Y'know, like if they ever get tired of the world(don't quote me on this; as I said this is partially hearsay). __________________ Go here http://www.geocities.com/sunlit_rain/home_page for songs translated into elvish.~Eruantale Aranìs Oronlamba~

03-30-2002, 10:44 AM	#7
Aralaithiel Ghost Eldaran Queen Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A remote mountain in Valinor Posts: 353	Yep, 50 is the correct number. May seem like a long time, but when you're immortal... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ A lelyat, wen! (Quenya Elvish for "You go, girl!"

03-30-2002, 10:51 AM	#8
Nufaciel Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 133	Let me give you a hint: all this information can be found inside "Morgoth's Ring" Volume X (I think) of the History of Middle-earth series. It's in the section about the customs of the Eldar (or something like that). __________________ Member of Pervy Elf Fanciers Anonymous...I need professional help.

03-31-2002, 08:41 AM	#9
Narya Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: not here... floating down the Liffey Posts: 124	Thanks to you all. Nufaciel, I´m just reading the Silmarillion [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] , but I´ll start hoME soon... __________________ ...for we know the joy of life is the peace* that love can bring* So spoke the wizard in his mountain home.

03-31-2002, 10:08 AM	#10
Gayahithwen Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The chat-room. Posts: 241	Nufaciel --> I'm not sure HoME has come out in Sweden yet, but I am looking for it.. __________________ Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he'll be a mile away - and barefoot.

03-31-2002, 01:46 PM	#11
Aroaraniel Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Buckland Posts: 158	I'm still not on the S yet...I'm pretty sure it'll take me awhile, though...hehehe it takes awhile to process through the ole noggin... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Pippin and Merry rule! -- Lissenen ar' maska'lalaith tenna' lye omentuva!

03-31-2002, 02:11 PM	#12
Eärendil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor (RtL: 1220 miles) Posts: 562	Gayahithwen - Two of the HOME books have been translated into Swedish, The Books of Lost Tales 1 & 2, I have them btw.. No others have been translated, but I hope they will be soon! __________________ Jag ska aldrig göra dig illa. Inte igen. Åtminstone inte mycket, åtminstone inte hårt. Kommer du ihåg? Då vi fortfarande kunde skratta, le på ett äkta vis. Jag tänker på det ibland. Det smärtar. För aldrig har du väl varit. Längre bort. Från mig.

11-09-2007, 04:19 PM	#13
Groin Redbeard Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Facing the world's troubles with Christ's hope! Posts: 1,635	It is said: "Never go to the Elves for council for they shall give yes and a no for an answer." __________________ I heard the bells on Christmas Day. Their old, familiar carols play. And wild and sweet the words repeatof peace on earth, good-will to men! ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow