WW XXXIX - Do Werebalrogs have wings? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Brinniel · 11-14-2007, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

It could be added that his first post toDay doesn't look too sincere either. It's not a problem if someone sees he needs to defend himself from suspicion. But to underline the fact that one's post is a defencive one looks a bit overdoing it. I mean a baddie thinks about these things all the time and wonders how his posts look in the eyes of the others. So they become easily oversensitive and feel the need to explain and back themselves up.

Indeed. Any baddie who feels they've been put under a hot fire can become overly defensive. And often, such behaviour only digs them a deeper hole. Isn't that what happened in the last game with Lommy?

Anyways, Nogrod does seem to be making a lot more sense toDay, but I'm still not entirely sure if I should trust him.

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Originally Posted by Might

After these posts Macalaure seems pretty suspicious.
First he posts, saying that he must quickly leave and has no time to comment on anything else, so it looks to me as if he was kind of in a hurry.
Still, he finds time 5 minutes later to post again in a quite defensive trying to explain why Nogrod and Gil ended up as those he suspected most.

I honestly don't understand why you find his timing to be suspicious. I got the impression his comment, "I don't have time to look at others closer right now" meant he didn't have time to make any lengthy analyses. Mac obviously cross-posted and had a few spare moments to skim Nogrod's post before leaving....I know I like to read any cross posts before I go, otherwise I might forget about them when I come back.

To answer Nogrod's question:

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Says I’m her second suspicion because of the early posts but that she has not enough evidence to back it up. Now I wondered this back up pointing to the “early posts” already earlier: if she wasn’t so sure any more / if there was no later suspicion so why did she boost the choice that was emerging thanks to Kath (whose points I still find the most fabricated in here)?

Your earlier posts consisted mainly of banter, and you said a lot without providing any useful information and I found that somewhat suspicious. There wasn't enough evidence to back that up because none of your later posts screamed guilty. It doesn't change the fact that I was still uncomfortable from your first posts. But I won't vote for someone based only off banter and nothing else.
Anyways, I hope that clears things up.

Ugh, I'm afraid I've been crazy exhausted lately with schoolwork. Let me go clear my head with a nap and I'll come back with more thoughts later.

Kath · 11-14-2007, 05:22 PM

Well, I'm back, and I suppose I should answer Noggie since he does seem intent on continuing this suspicion of me.

I think the main point is that I came up with fabricated suspicion against him. I don't really know how to answer that, except to say that I didn't. It was Day 1, I had about an hour free to post and not that many posts to base any suspicion. I wanted to make a useful vote rather than just flinging any old name into the hat so I did try to put reasoning behind it.

Ah! I've just found a numbered post. Now I can answer in order.

1) Posting a lot ~ yes, you had. Compared to everyone else at least. I think only Mith was close on you there. It wasn't a joke, because while you have seen baddies hide in silent villages, I have seen them hide in plain and very noisy sight. There is absolutely no reason why a balrog wouldn't be the most talkative person in a village. Also, your assertion that killing off the loudmouths lead to a silent village is true, but I'd rather a silent village with only one baddie left to find than a noisy village with all the baddies left. I'd rather a boring game than a higher chance of being slaughtered in my sleep.

2) Posting a lot while saying nothing ~ you have often called for substance in posts, especially on Day 1, so when I find you not doing that yourself it startles me. It may well just be a difference in opinion, you think they're full of substance, I don't. Since then you have written a lot of helpful and substantive posts, so this claim at least I will relinquish.

3) Seeing balrogs everywhere ~ it wasn't the fact that you were, it was the style you were doing it in. It was too blase for you. I don't know whether you're trying to change your playing style or something you're just really rubbing me up the wrong way so far. Er, which is also the answer to point 4. No, it's not an argument, unless one can make an argument which says you're behaving differently therefore you may have a different role.

Look, basically, to me my arguments aren't sham. They were what I came up with after reading the posts that had been written so far. My only motive is to find out whether you are, as per my suspicion, a balrog. I don't know why you're jumping on this quite so fiercely considering that I hardly started a bandwagon for you and the suspicion wasn't even that intense, it was just the most intense of any of the suspicions I'd gathered.

11-14-2007, 05:22 PM	#2
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Well, I'm back, and I suppose I should answer Noggie since he does seem intent on continuing this suspicion of me. I think the main point is that I came up with fabricated suspicion against him. I don't really know how to answer that, except to say that I didn't. It was Day 1, I had about an hour free to post and not that many posts to base any suspicion. I wanted to make a useful vote rather than just flinging any old name into the hat so I did try to put reasoning behind it. Ah! I've just found a numbered post. Now I can answer in order. 1) Posting a lot ~ yes, you had. Compared to everyone else at least. I think only Mith was close on you there. It wasn't a joke, because while you have seen baddies hide in silent villages, I have seen them hide in plain and very noisy sight. There is absolutely no reason why a balrog wouldn't be the most talkative person in a village. Also, your assertion that killing off the loudmouths lead to a silent village is true, but I'd rather a silent village with only one baddie left to find than a noisy village with all the baddies left. I'd rather a boring game than a higher chance of being slaughtered in my sleep. 2) Posting a lot while saying nothing ~ you have often called for substance in posts, especially on Day 1, so when I find you not doing that yourself it startles me. It may well just be a difference in opinion, you think they're full of substance, I don't. Since then you have written a lot of helpful and substantive posts, so this claim at least I will relinquish. 3) Seeing balrogs everywhere ~ it wasn't the fact that you were, it was the style you were doing it in. It was too blase for you. I don't know whether you're trying to change your playing style or something you're just really rubbing me up the wrong way so far. Er, which is also the answer to point 4. No, it's not an argument, unless one can make an argument which says you're behaving differently therefore you may have a different role. Look, basically, to me my arguments aren't sham. They were what I came up with after reading the posts that had been written so far. My only motive is to find out whether you are, as per my suspicion, a balrog. I don't know why you're jumping on this quite so fiercely considering that I hardly started a bandwagon for you and the suspicion wasn't even that intense, it was just the most intense of any of the suspicions I'd gathered.