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Findegil · 11-17-2007, 11:29 PM

Thanks for catching this typos Aaront596. I will corrct them.

Respectfully
Findegil

Aaront596 · 11-20-2007, 12:45 AM

anyone care to help me place this text from the silmarillion into my FOG?

Tidings were brought by Thorondor Lord of Eagles of the fall of Nargothrond, and after of the slaying of Thingol and of Dior his heir, and of the ruin of Doriath; but Turgon shut his ear to word of the woes without, and vowed to march never at the side of any son of Fëanor; and his people he forbade ever to pass the leaguer of the hills.

i can't seem to find a spot for it.

Aaront596 · 11-23-2007, 02:39 PM

could anyone tell me what source this is from.

<WH compass the death of Tuor and Eärendil if he could. If he did

Thanx,
Aaron

Findegil · 11-24-2007, 06:52 AM

Your second question first: WH means The Wanderings of Húrin the passage you quotted comes from endnote 30 on page 302 in my edition. The reference of the endnote is to Húrins revealing the general place of Gondolin with his speech in Dimbar.

Actuslly your quote from the Sil77 was taken up into our Fog version, if so ut was somewhat changed:

Quote:

FG-M-5.2 <FG Now the years fare by, and egged by Idril Tuor keepeth ever at his secret delving{;}. <Q30 Tidings {Turgon heard of} <QS77 were brought by> {Thorndor}[Thorondor] <QS77 Lord of Eagles of the fall of Nargothrond,> {concerning} <QS77 and after of> the slaying of {Dior, Thingol's heir} <QS77 Thingol and of Dior his heir> {, and thereafter he} <QS77 ; but Turgon> shut his ear to word of the woes without; and he vowed to march never at the side of any son of Fëanor; and his {folk} <QS77 people> he forbade ever to pass the leaguer of the hills> but seeing that the leaguer of spies hath grown thinner Turgon dwelleth more at ease and in less fear.>

This is before Maeglin is lost and after Tuor begins the dellving of the tunnel. I hope that will anable you to find it.

Respectfully
Findegil

Aaront596 · 11-24-2007, 12:53 PM

thank you very much.
-Aaron

ps here is another question, sentences such as these:

and all the thrall-folk of the Noldoli must dig unceasingly for metals while Morgoth sitteth and deviseth fires and calleth flames and smokes to come from the lower heats, nor doth he suffer any of the Noldor to stray ever a foot from their places of bondage.

Do the enthralled Noldor exist in latter versions of this story? I ask because i don't know not because i think one way or the other.

Findegil · 11-25-2007, 09:14 AM

Gwindor in the Narn was never removed, so it is clear that the elvish thralls existed even in the latest versions of the legendarium.

Respectfully
Findegil

Aaront596 · 11-29-2007, 01:43 PM

can any one explian this name change that you guys made, specifically the source.

{Salgant}[Talagand]

11-20-2007, 12:45 AM	#2
Aaront596 Pile O'Bones Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Louisville KY USA Posts: 21	help anyone care to help me place this text from the silmarillion into my FOG? Tidings were brought by Thorondor Lord of Eagles of the fall of Nargothrond, and after of the slaying of Thingol and of Dior his heir, and of the ruin of Doriath; but Turgon shut his ear to word of the woes without, and vowed to march never at the side of any son of Fëanor; and his people he forbade ever to pass the leaguer of the hills. i can't seem to find a spot for it.

11-23-2007, 02:39 PM	#3
Aaront596 Pile O'Bones Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Louisville KY USA Posts: 21	where is this from could anyone tell me what source this is from. <WH compass the death of Tuor and Eärendil if he could. If he did Thanx, Aaron

11-24-2007, 12:53 PM	#5
Aaront596 Pile O'Bones Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Louisville KY USA Posts: 21	thank you very much. -Aaron ps here is another question, sentences such as these: and all the thrall-folk of the Noldoli must dig unceasingly for metals while Morgoth sitteth and deviseth fires and calleth flames and smokes to come from the lower heats, nor doth he suffer any of the Noldor to stray ever a foot from their places of bondage. Do the enthralled Noldor exist in latter versions of this story? I ask because i don't know not because i think one way or the other. Last edited by Aaront596; 11-24-2007 at 01:14 PM.

11-17-2007, 11:29 PM	#1
Findegil King's Writer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,721	Thanks for catching this typos Aaront596. I will corrct them. Respectfully Findegil

11-25-2007, 09:14 AM	#6
Findegil King's Writer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,721	Gwindor in the Narn was never removed, so it is clear that the elvish thralls existed even in the latest versions of the legendarium. Respectfully Findegil

11-29-2007, 01:43 PM	#7
Aaront596 Pile O'Bones Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Louisville KY USA Posts: 21	can any one explian this name change that you guys made, specifically the source. {Salgant}[Talagand]