When did you cry? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-29-2007, 07:46 AM

It does not happen often to me, but when there is the possibility, I don't have anything against crying a little bit. And Tolkien definitely gives that possibility, as even this thread shows.

I believe no one has this far mentioned the scene that definitely made me cry. Maybe there were others, I'm not sure, but this one I remember: Thorin's death in the Hobbit. When Bilbo awakens, Gandalf greets him and is happy and then he leads him to Thorin. "Hail, Thorin! I have brought him." And then Thorin's speech. Oh my, I just now started to cry! I had to check the exact words, opened the book and look what happened! That settles it, I am not going to check anything else... *walks away, sobbing*

Folwren · 11-29-2007, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

I believe no one has this far mentioned the scene that definitely made me cry. Maybe there were others, I'm not sure, but this one I remember: Thorin's death in the Hobbit. When Bilbo awakens, Gandalf greets him and is happy and then he leads him to Thorin. "Hail, Thorin! I have brought him." And then Thorin's speech. Oh my, I just now started to cry! I had to check the exact words, opened the book and look what happened! That settles it, I am not going to check anything else... *walks away, sobbing*

Ah! Legate! That's so sad.

Actually, yes, that part makes me cry nearly as much as Frodo's 'death' after Shelob. I had simply forgotten it. Pop and them laughed at me last time we read The Hobbit aloud because I was sitting over there crying.

-- Folwren

***Thenamir*** · 11-29-2007, 11:14 AM

I will get skewered for this one. I just know it.

There is one, and only one scene in the FOTR movie which I believe to be a distinct improvement over the book. In the book it makes me choke up, but in the movie it causes me to weep openly (much to the embarassment of my near seat-mates at the premiere!) -- the death of Boromir as portrayed by the estimable Sean Bean. The courage and valor of Boromir coming to the defense of Merry and Pippin, the score (or more) of uruks slain in their defense, all for naught...Aragorn handing him his sword so that he can make peace with Aragorn and do homage in salute to his sovereign before he dies...I tear up here at work just remembering the line "I would have followed you, my brother...my captain...my king!"

Bean deserved the Oscar for Best Actor for that one line alone.

McCaber · 11-29-2007, 01:45 PM

I didn't cry, but I was definitely overcome with emotion at the Charge of the Rohirrim. It gets me every time. The love between Faramir and Eowyn was beautiful. But the Narn i Hin Hurin was when I got the most emotional. Finduilas got me the closest to crying any book has.

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 11-29-2007, 04:12 PM

I basically cried the whole way through the Return of the King when I read the book... not as much in the movie though...
I had to cry during the chapter The Houses of Healing, when Merry, Eowyn and Faramir almost die, the whole Mt. Doom sequence with one of my most favourites, Samwise carries Frodo up the mountain and when Sam threw his pots away.
And of course, The Grey Havens... but I think that that would make many people cry.
In the movies I had to cry at the separation of Merry and Pippin and of course when Sam gives that beautiful speech at the end of TTT.
I'm a very sentimental person..so I just have to cry in many places in all three of the volumes.

Sauron the White · 11-29-2007, 07:27 PM

Through much of the second half of the film RETURN OF THE KING. I lost count.

Meriadoc1961 · 11-29-2007, 09:56 PM

There are many scenes and passages that are quite moving, but for me the top two are Merry saying Eowyn should not die alone, and risks everything to try and save her as he stabs the the Lord of the Nazgul, and breaks the spell that knit his sinews together. The second is when Faramir goes out AGAIN to face what most certainly will be a horrible, cruel death to try and please his father, a man who is nothing but cruel to him and everyone else.

Merry and Faramir always have been my two favorite characters in the entire books.

Merry

Nerwen · 12-03-2007, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

I believe no one has this far mentioned the scene that definitely made me cry. Maybe there were others, I'm not sure, but this one I remember: Thorin's death in the Hobbit. When Bilbo awakens, Gandalf greets him and is happy and then he leads him to Thorin. "Hail, Thorin! I have brought him." And then Thorin's speech. Oh my, I just now started to cry! I had to check the exact words, opened the book and look what happened! That settles it, I am not going to check anything else... *walks away, sobbing*

Interesting you should mention that, Legate. That scene is the only one I can recall crying at– I don't just mean in Tolkien's work, I mean at all. I think it must have been the first story I had encountered where a major character dies (I was about five).

Aganzir · 12-04-2007, 08:31 AM

Lommy, I almost started crying while reading that on the screen. It's definitely one of the saddest and most beautiful phrases ever.

I'm not a sentimental person (at least I didn't use to be), but there are so many things that make me cry in Tolkien's works that I don't even remember them all. Some parts fill me with almost unbearable joy ("Rohan had come at last", "Thus came Aragorn son of Arathorn, Elessar, Isildur's heir, out of the Paths of the Dead, borne upon a wind from the Sea to the kingdom of Gondor..." etc.), some make me cry every time I read them. Many poems & songs, for example, and the endings of both the Lord of the Rings and the Silmarillion. I remember weeping uncontrollably for the last pages almost every time I've read them. They're just too beautiful.

Almost twenty years ago a Finnish theatre group recorded some songs from the Lord of the Rings, and a few years ago I borrowed the cd from Lommy. All of the singers don't sound very good (ie. don't resemble the "original" singers), but many of the songs themselves are quite beautiful. One night I listened to the song of the Ent and the Entwife on repeat probably ten times and cried all the time just because it was so sad.

However, there's still one no one has mentioned: The Leaf by Niggle. I cry every single time I read it (and admit doing something like Lommy: reading it just to make me cry). Last time I almost started crying in a bus, and that wouldn't have been too nice.

11-29-2007, 07:46 AM	#1
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	It does not happen often to me, but when there is the possibility, I don't have anything against crying a little bit. And Tolkien definitely gives that possibility, as even this thread shows. I believe no one has this far mentioned the scene that definitely made me cry. Maybe there were others, I'm not sure, but this one I remember: Thorin's death in the Hobbit. When Bilbo awakens, Gandalf greets him and is happy and then he leads him to Thorin. "Hail, Thorin! I have brought him." And then Thorin's speech. Oh my, I just now started to cry! I had to check the exact words, opened the book and look what happened! That settles it, I am not going to check anything else... walks away, sobbing __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-29-2007, 11:14 AM	#3
*Thenamir* Spectre of Capitalism Join Date: May 2001 Location: Battling evil bureaucrats at Zeta Aquilae Posts: 987	I will get skewered for this one. I just know it. There is one, and only one scene in the FOTR movie which I believe to be a distinct improvement over the book. In the book it makes me choke up, but in the movie it causes me to weep openly (much to the embarassment of my near seat-mates at the premiere!) -- the death of Boromir as portrayed by the estimable Sean Bean. The courage and valor of Boromir coming to the defense of Merry and Pippin, the score (or more) of uruks slain in their defense, all for naught...Aragorn handing him his sword so that he can make peace with Aragorn and do homage in salute to his sovereign before he dies...I tear up here at work just remembering the line "I would have followed you, my brother...my captain...my king!" Bean deserved the Oscar for Best Actor for that one line alone. __________________ The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. ~~ Marcus Aurelius

11-29-2007, 04:12 PM	#5
TheGreatElvenWarrior Mighty Quill Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Walking off to look for America Posts: 2,230	I basically cried the whole way through the Return of the King when I read the book... not as much in the movie though... I had to cry during the chapter The Houses of Healing, when Merry, Eowyn and Faramir almost die, the whole Mt. Doom sequence with one of my most favourites, Samwise carries Frodo up the mountain and when Sam threw his pots away. And of course, The Grey Havens... but I think that that would make many people cry. In the movies I had to cry at the separation of Merry and Pippin and of course when Sam gives that beautiful speech at the end of TTT. I'm a very sentimental person..so I just have to cry in many places in all three of the volumes. __________________ The Party Doesn't Start Until You're Dead.

11-29-2007, 09:56 PM	#7
Meriadoc1961 Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 101	There are many scenes and passages that are quite moving, but for me the top two are Merry saying Eowyn should not die alone, and risks everything to try and save her as he stabs the the Lord of the Nazgul, and breaks the spell that knit his sinews together. The second is when Faramir goes out AGAIN to face what most certainly will be a horrible, cruel death to try and please his father, a man who is nothing but cruel to him and everyone else. Merry and Faramir always have been my two favorite characters in the entire books. Merry __________________ "If I yawn again, I shall split at the ears!"

12-04-2007, 08:31 AM	#9
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	Lommy, I almost started crying while reading that on the screen. It's definitely one of the saddest and most beautiful phrases ever. I'm not a sentimental person (at least I didn't use to be), but there are so many things that make me cry in Tolkien's works that I don't even remember them all. Some parts fill me with almost unbearable joy ("Rohan had come at last", "Thus came Aragorn son of Arathorn, Elessar, Isildur's heir, out of the Paths of the Dead, borne upon a wind from the Sea to the kingdom of Gondor..." etc.), some make me cry every time I read them. Many poems & songs, for example, and the endings of both the Lord of the Rings and the Silmarillion. I remember weeping uncontrollably for the last pages almost every time I've read them. They're just too beautiful. Almost twenty years ago a Finnish theatre group recorded some songs from the Lord of the Rings, and a few years ago I borrowed the cd from Lommy. All of the singers don't sound very good (ie. don't resemble the "original" singers), but many of the songs themselves are quite beautiful. One night I listened to the song of the Ent and the Entwife on repeat probably ten times and cried all the time just because it was so sad. However, there's still one no one has mentioned: The Leaf by Niggle. I cry every single time I read it (and admit doing something like Lommy: reading it just to make me cry). Last time I almost started crying in a bus, and that wouldn't have been too nice. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

11-29-2007, 01:45 PM	#4
McCaber Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Skyrim, again. Posts: 820	I didn't cry, but I was definitely overcome with emotion at the Charge of the Rohirrim. It gets me every time. The love between Faramir and Eowyn was beautiful. But the Narn i Hin Hurin was when I got the most emotional. Finduilas got me the closest to crying any book has.

11-29-2007, 07:27 PM	#6
Sauron the White Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 903	Through much of the second half of the film RETURN OF THE KING. I lost count.