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Old 11-29-2007, 07:46 AM   #1
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It does not happen often to me, but when there is the possibility, I don't have anything against crying a little bit. And Tolkien definitely gives that possibility, as even this thread shows.

I believe no one has this far mentioned the scene that definitely made me cry. Maybe there were others, I'm not sure, but this one I remember: Thorin's death in the Hobbit. When Bilbo awakens, Gandalf greets him and is happy and then he leads him to Thorin. "Hail, Thorin! I have brought him." And then Thorin's speech. Oh my, I just now started to cry! I had to check the exact words, opened the book and look what happened! That settles it, I am not going to check anything else... *walks away, sobbing*
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:25 AM   #2
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I believe no one has this far mentioned the scene that definitely made me cry. Maybe there were others, I'm not sure, but this one I remember: Thorin's death in the Hobbit. When Bilbo awakens, Gandalf greets him and is happy and then he leads him to Thorin. "Hail, Thorin! I have brought him." And then Thorin's speech. Oh my, I just now started to cry! I had to check the exact words, opened the book and look what happened! That settles it, I am not going to check anything else... *walks away, sobbing*
Ah! Legate! That's so sad.

Actually, yes, that part makes me cry nearly as much as Frodo's 'death' after Shelob. I had simply forgotten it. Pop and them laughed at me last time we read The Hobbit aloud because I was sitting over there crying.

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Old 11-29-2007, 11:14 AM   #3
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There is one, and only one scene in the FOTR movie which I believe to be a distinct improvement over the book. In the book it makes me choke up, but in the movie it causes me to weep openly (much to the embarassment of my near seat-mates at the premiere!) -- the death of Boromir as portrayed by the estimable Sean Bean. The courage and valor of Boromir coming to the defense of Merry and Pippin, the score (or more) of uruks slain in their defense, all for naught...Aragorn handing him his sword so that he can make peace with Aragorn and do homage in salute to his sovereign before he dies...I tear up here at work just remembering the line "I would have followed you, my brother...my captain...my king!"

Bean deserved the Oscar for Best Actor for that one line alone.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:45 PM   #4
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I didn't cry, but I was definitely overcome with emotion at the Charge of the Rohirrim. It gets me every time. The love between Faramir and Eowyn was beautiful. But the Narn i Hin Hurin was when I got the most emotional. Finduilas got me the closest to crying any book has.
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:12 PM   #5
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I basically cried the whole way through the Return of the King when I read the book... not as much in the movie though...
I had to cry during the chapter The Houses of Healing, when Merry, Eowyn and Faramir almost die, the whole Mt. Doom sequence with one of my most favourites, Samwise carries Frodo up the mountain and when Sam threw his pots away.
And of course, The Grey Havens... but I think that that would make many people cry.
In the movies I had to cry at the separation of Merry and Pippin and of course when Sam gives that beautiful speech at the end of TTT.
I'm a very sentimental person..so I just have to cry in many places in all three of the volumes.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:27 PM   #6
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Through much of the second half of the film RETURN OF THE KING. I lost count.
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:56 PM   #7
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There are many scenes and passages that are quite moving, but for me the top two are Merry saying Eowyn should not die alone, and risks everything to try and save her as he stabs the the Lord of the Nazgul, and breaks the spell that knit his sinews together. The second is when Faramir goes out AGAIN to face what most certainly will be a horrible, cruel death to try and please his father, a man who is nothing but cruel to him and everyone else.

Merry and Faramir always have been my two favorite characters in the entire books.

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Old 12-03-2007, 10:00 PM   #8
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I believe no one has this far mentioned the scene that definitely made me cry. Maybe there were others, I'm not sure, but this one I remember: Thorin's death in the Hobbit. When Bilbo awakens, Gandalf greets him and is happy and then he leads him to Thorin. "Hail, Thorin! I have brought him." And then Thorin's speech. Oh my, I just now started to cry! I had to check the exact words, opened the book and look what happened! That settles it, I am not going to check anything else... *walks away, sobbing*
Interesting you should mention that, Legate. That scene is the only one I can recall crying at– I don't just mean in Tolkien's work, I mean at all. I think it must have been the first story I had encountered where a major character dies (I was about five).
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Old 12-04-2007, 08:31 AM   #9
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Lommy, I almost started crying while reading that on the screen. It's definitely one of the saddest and most beautiful phrases ever.

I'm not a sentimental person (at least I didn't use to be), but there are so many things that make me cry in Tolkien's works that I don't even remember them all. Some parts fill me with almost unbearable joy ("Rohan had come at last", "Thus came Aragorn son of Arathorn, Elessar, Isildur's heir, out of the Paths of the Dead, borne upon a wind from the Sea to the kingdom of Gondor..." etc.), some make me cry every time I read them. Many poems & songs, for example, and the endings of both the Lord of the Rings and the Silmarillion. I remember weeping uncontrollably for the last pages almost every time I've read them. They're just too beautiful.

Almost twenty years ago a Finnish theatre group recorded some songs from the Lord of the Rings, and a few years ago I borrowed the cd from Lommy. All of the singers don't sound very good (ie. don't resemble the "original" singers), but many of the songs themselves are quite beautiful. One night I listened to the song of the Ent and the Entwife on repeat probably ten times and cried all the time just because it was so sad.

However, there's still one no one has mentioned: The Leaf by Niggle. I cry every single time I read it (and admit doing something like Lommy: reading it just to make me cry). Last time I almost started crying in a bus, and that wouldn't have been too nice.
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