The fall of the Tower of Cirith Ungol - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

William Cloud Hicklin · 12-10-2007, 08:39 AM

Surely one didn't have to be a 'black Numenorean' to be a traitor! After all Grima Wormtongue wasn't a "Black Rohir." Nor were the rebels of the Kin-strife B.N, but rather members of the GNP (Gondorian National Party).

The Mouth of Sauron: No way. There's no suggestion that he had any sort of ultraextended ringwraith-like lifespan (he's expressly a 'living man.') He is said to have entered the service of the Dark Tower 'when first it rose again'- which was only a few decades before the War of the Ring.

12-10-2007, 08:39 AM	#4
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,332	Surely one didn't have to be a 'black Numenorean' to be a traitor! After all Grima Wormtongue wasn't a "Black Rohir." Nor were the rebels of the Kin-strife B.N, but rather members of the GNP (Gondorian National Party). The Mouth of Sauron: No way. There's no suggestion that he had any sort of ultraextended ringwraith-like lifespan (he's expressly a 'living man.') He is said to have entered the service of the Dark Tower 'when first it rose again'- which was only a few decades before the War of the Ring. __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.