Hurin and despair - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Morwen Tindomerel · 05-13-2003, 08:54 AM

Excuse me?

Don't get me wrong, I like Beren as well as anybody but his bearing towards Thingol was *anything* but humble! and he most certainly did mock him. Mind you he was provoked and his reaction quite justified, (he isn't the one being prejudiced and unreasonable!) but he's no plaster saint.

I mean maybe Hurin defies Morgoth to his face but Beren deliberately walks into his stronghold to fulfill an incredibly over-ambitious and unrealistic vow. Not to mention deciding to confront his hostile father-in-law without a Silmaril. If Hurin Thalion is 'proud' then so is Beren Erchamion.

Hurin earned Morgoth's enmity by successfully resisting his will. What he said didn't make any difference, that resistance alone was enough to provoke the Dark Lord. But surely you're not suggesting he should have given in?

05-13-2003, 08:54 AM	#11
Morwen Tindomerel Wight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Minas Anor or Annuminas the Golden Posts: 187	Excuse me? Don't get me wrong, I like Beren as well as anybody but his bearing towards Thingol was anything but humble! and he most certainly did mock him. Mind you he was provoked and his reaction quite justified, (he isn't the one being prejudiced and unreasonable!) but he's no plaster saint. I mean maybe Hurin defies Morgoth to his face but Beren deliberately walks into his stronghold to fulfill an incredibly over-ambitious and unrealistic vow. Not to mention deciding to confront his hostile father-in-law without a Silmaril. If Hurin Thalion is 'proud' then so is Beren Erchamion. Hurin earned Morgoth's enmity by successfully resisting his will. What he said didn't make any difference, that resistance alone was enough to provoke the Dark Lord. But surely you're not suggesting he should have given in?