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Old 12-22-2007, 04:36 AM   #1
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How exactly are Wizard staves made in Middle Earth anyway? I'd imagine whatever magic the Wizards do would be largely unique to them, so how could Elves craft their magical staves?
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Old 12-22-2007, 12:21 PM   #2
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Oh, I don't imagine Wizards actually make their own staves anyway. I reckon they just 'magick 'em up' after the contractor delivers them.

Anyway, one kudo to the people at Weta Workshop (for whom I have a lot of respect, unlike their boss (even if they do call Theoden's people 'the Rohans')): Gandalf 2.0's staff clearly shows a Lothlorien design aesthetic.
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Old 12-26-2007, 08:47 PM   #3
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Oh, I don't imagine Wizards actually make their own staves anyway. I reckon they just 'magick 'em up' after the contractor delivers them.
Does that magicking take any time or energy? Could Saruman have used an Ent arm as a replacement staff for the one Gandalf destroyed? Likewise, what import then when the Witch-King destroys Gandalf's? In the very next scene, Gandalf swipes a spear. Could he not have made this into one?

I prefer some other mechanism that requires that the staves be more special, like being delivered from on high by the Eagles, after, that is, the Wizard places his order online.
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Old 12-26-2007, 09:02 PM   #4
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I watched the Fellowship extended version yesterday, with this thread in mind. I stopped the movie just to check. Gandalf's first staff is a knarled wooden staff with a knobby top. After he looses it to Saruman, Gandalf is in Rivendell with a new staff. It is a different one. The one he has in Rivendell is a wooden gnarled staff, but the top is different. There are roots that come out one side of the top making it more elongated than knobby. (hope that makes sense) Then after he falls in Moria and is reborn, he has a white staff.

I think these staffs were probably given to him. Elrond would certainly have walking sticks like that or someone in Rivendell could make him one. Then surely in Valinor he was given a new staff to complete his mission.
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Old 12-28-2007, 01:13 PM   #5
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I always had a thought that the wizard... say Gandalf would get a stick of wood and had it carved or carve it themselves, but they already had their powers, the staff was just to direct their powers in a more deadly manner!
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Old 01-25-2008, 01:43 PM   #6
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Sting Gandalfs Staff

Hello my friends, to put all your minds at rest about the missing staff, the story goes as this is the story.
When the Isatar arrived to middle earth they had no staffs, they had what was known as a rod, it is held within them, this was their source of power. When the five arrived in Greenwood the Great (Now known as Mirkwood) each went their separate ways and created their staffs. Gandalfs staff from his arrival till it was snatched up by Saurman was only the first (It was created from the trees in Mirkwood). When Gandalf was rescued by the Eagle he returned to Mirkwood where he had created his original staff. To the other questions about using his powers go as this, a truly good wizard only uses his powers to vanquish true evil because it will diminish . Gandalf was entrusted with Narya one of the Elven rings (after cirdan's death) because of his values to life. And as we know when using a ring of power the evil Lord knows all.
As for Gandalfs white staff that was broken by the Witch King of Agmar, Gandalf replaced this staff from the refreshed tree of gondor, with the Kings permisson.
Hopefully this will answer alls questions, if not please contact me.

May the peace of our middle earth be with you always.

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Old 01-25-2008, 02:40 PM   #7
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I'm afraid the breaking of Gandalf's white staff by the Witch King is one of Peter Jackson's movie inventions! It's fun to speculate about the origin of the staffs of which we know from the books, but Tolkien did not give more information, so anything we postulate has more to do with our imaginations than with actual fact.
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