WW XXXXI: With a Twist

[Farael]

The first conspiracy theory of the day!

Ok, here's a case of "he should have known better" for my first conspiracy theory (second actually, if we take Shasta into account)

Originally Posted by Boromir88

For instance, I see that Shasta is a wolf, Nerwen is innocent. Nogrod is posting exactly the same as he always does whether wolf or innocent. I want Rikae whacked so Azaelia can become the wise-woman and I am moved up to assistant to the wise-woman. See, I just added a bunch and that was whatever first popped into my head.

Now, that seems harmless enough, just a little Day 1 banter... but his "seeing" that Shasta is a wolf just jumped out at me

Farael, have you gone daft? Boro might very well be the Seer and you are flushing him out!

Now, let me explain here why I'm doing this and perhaps taking a bit of a chance. While it's true that it might be a "seer-hint" I am concerned on two accounts. First of all, Boro should simply know better. If he trully is the Seer he'd be careful not to say such thing on day one, as a wolf picking up on it would mean near-certain death.

Second, of all people he could've "Dreamed" of as a seer, isn't it awfully convenient that he dreamed of one of the main suspects so far this Day? And found him a wolf? I'm no mathematician, but the odds are stacked against all these "chance" happenings.

Originally Posted by Boro

By "us" do you mean the innocent or the wolves? Because, really you could say "us" to seem as if you are creating a good "we're in this together" vibe, but really by using "us" you mean your wolf pals. A big problem in a village seems to be that we aren't good at communicating and people are constantly interpretting something someone said wrong. In order to avoid this, I say we all need to become more clear, to clearly get across our points. That way no one is getting confused by something someone else said.

Now. I'm pretty sure this is all jest and I'm fine with that on principle, but he goes on attacking Nogrod with things that are not really explained as suspicions

Originally Posted by Boro

Nogrod, if you're an optimist I am Batman, I mean really...come on are you being serious? And who is to say the twists don't help "us" (by "us" I mean the villagers)...Do you really think phantom would create such a lopsided game that would cause the village to be slaughtered in a matter of 4-5 days? Well, maybe if he was in that kind of mood, but this village isn't as "doomed" as you are thinking it is. Even if it was 4 wolves and no gifteds, the wolves would be facing the collective brain power of a baker's dozen group of experienced werewolf hunters. Add on top of that your gifteds and now some twists to the game? And you got yourself one promising game.

As a matter of fact I agree with his point, no mod would want to create an unbalanced village on purpose, so we have to hope for the best (and prepare for the worst). My problem here is that he writes this more as an attack on Nogrod than an attempt at calming the waters for all of us villagers.

I think Nogrod operates under the belief that if we get rid of all the quiet/I'm not going to give much away people, than all the "loudmouth" wolves would eventually be caught and lynched. I take pride in being a loudmouth, but dang is it hard as heck to survive as a wolf. The only time I did survive as a wolf, was one with phantom, and he pretty much did all the evil wolvish stuff, wolves do, and I sat back and ate some popcorn. It's far easier for wolves to escape further down the road if they really quiet...as they escape talk for a while and you are left with the loudmouths killing eachother off, until one day we all realize...hey I didn't even know unnamed quiet person was in this village? Crap we better do something about that.

So, Nogrod's line of thought is, to lynch all the "quieter" type early, and we'll probably get one or two that is a wolf and eventually the loudmouth wolves will be caught, because they talk themselves into trouble. One strategy, that I've considered many times adopting, but I rather think sometimes "quiet" is mistaken as "unhelpful," which isn't the case at all.

I'm pretty sure I crossed with a couple people

Sorry for the large chunk of text, I couldn't find a way to divide it into more manageable parts.

Basically Boromir goes and explains Nogrod's behaviour/theory. So after attacking Nogrod on grounds that are not based on suspicions but rather pessimism and the use of the word "us", Boromir tries to find some "common ground" with Nogrod.

Finally, and another big problem here, is that Boromir is in favour of lynching people based on quantity rather than quality of posting.

Actually, he is not even "in favour" of it completely, as he says that he "considered adopting" but it can be misinterpreted as "let's lynch the unhelpful" which is against the spirit of this theory.

So, Master Boromir if I was to post every 15 minutes with a nonsensical string of random words, would I be lower down your suspicions list than if I posted twice a (game) day with very well thought-out comprehensive posts?

Maybe I understood it all wrong, but in summary

• Boromir tosses out a lame seer hint that would not fool a WW newbie. Curiously enough, "claiming" to have "seen" that the top suspect thus far is a wolf. Yes, it was part of a "jest" post, but that is what makes it look like a bad seer-hint to me
• Boromir attacks Nogrod on grounds of the word "us" and his pessimism
• Boromir then agrees with Nogrod on grounds of his "lynch quiet" approach
• Boromir does not even wholy agrees that Nogrod's theory is possible, as it can be "misunderstood
• this "misunderstanding" I must be guilty of, as I think Nogrod's theory would make no sense otherwise
  
  
  
  
  

So say what you will, but Boromir looks rather fishy right now.