WW XXXXI: With a Twist - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Farael · 12-27-2007, 03:29 PM

From my part, I can say I voted for Shasta as it was a "safe" vote... not safe as in "I won't get suspected over it" but rather safe in a "well, he's been all over the place, I don't think he's adding to the village and so even if I'm wrong I won't be getting rid of a player who's been coming up with valuable discussion"

Conversely, Nogrod did not look good to me, but I wasn't sold on his guilt and I felt I could've used another day's worth of his posts to determine whether I should vote for him or not.

As it turns out, I was far off

Keep in mind that hindsight is 20-20 but at the time Shasta did not look as Ordo as he does now

Edit: X-ed with... ugh, this doesn't show the last few posts. Ok, whoever wrote after Eomer
Edit: Isabell

Farael · 12-27-2007, 03:32 PM

Votes (Based on Morm's list)

Valier for Agan (Agan 1)
Legate for Valier (Agan 1, Valier 1)
Boromir for Morm (Agan 1, Valier 1, Morm 1)
Valier retracts Agan and votes Nerwen (Valier 1, Morm 1, Nerwen 1)
The Might for Eomer (Valier 1, Morm 1, Nerwen 1, Eomer 1)
Nerwen for Valier (Valier 2, Morm 1, Nerwen 1, Eomer 1)
Rikae for Valier (Valier 3, Morm 1, Nerwen 1, Eomer 1)
SpM for Valier (Valier 4, Morm 1, Nerwen 1, Eomer 1)
Mac for Morm (Valier 4, Morm 2, Nerwen 1, Eomer 1)
Morm for Nerwen (Valier 4, Morm 2, Nerwen 2, Eomer 1)
Agan for Mac (Valier 4, Morm 2, Nerwen 2, Eomer 1, Mac 1)
Farel for Valier (Valier 5, Morm 2, Nerwen 2, Eomer 1, Mac 1)
Isabell for Nerwen (Valier 5, Morm 2, Nerwen 3, Eomer 1, Mac 1)

the phantom · 12-27-2007, 04:31 PM

Valier could only shake her head as the village turned against her. Fools! she thought. Don't they recognize when someone is trying to help?

As the villagers closed on her, she drew her Hunting knife and threw it forcefully into their midst. At this nearly every villager rushed her, fearing the further flinging of fast flying blades. But rather than fight she slumped to her knees and accepted the blows that began raining down upon her.

I tried, M'Lord... I tried...

One by one the villagers turned away from Valier's broken body, knowing that they had not lynched a Werewolf. At last only Azaelia remained in the middle of the square, seemingly doubled over in grief.

"Come on, m'dear," said Rikae, walking towards Azaelia. When she reached Azaelia, she placed a gentle hand on her shoulder. "Hurry, my apprentice. It will be night soon."

But Azaelia did not move. Eomer strode over and shook her slightly. When he released her, she swayed sideways and spilled out onto her side. The villagers gasped. Protruding from Azaelia's chest was Valier's Hunting knife.

"Look at the hilt!" shouted Legate. But there was no need- everyone had spotted it simultaneously. There was a symbol on both sides. They all knew it well, for it was the symbol of Werewolf Hunters everywhere.

And then night arrived, more threatening than ever.

Living-
Aganzir- hangwoman
Boromir88- assistant to the apprentice to Rikae
Eomer of the Rohirrim- gravedigger
Farael- conspiracy theorist
Isabellkya- hen
Kath- milliner
Legate of Amon Lanc- lamp-maker/fiddler
Macalaure- jailer
mormegil- woodsman/carpenter
Nerwen- miller
Rikae- midwife/wise-woman
The Might- shephard
The Saucepan Man- traveling tinker

Dead-
Nogrod, reticent lumberjack- Day 1 lynch victim (WEREWOLF)
Shastanis Althreduin, herbalist- Night 2 wolf slaughter (VILLAGER)
Valier, basket weaver- Day 2 lynch victim (HUNTER)
Azaelia of Willowbottom, apprentice to Rikae- Day 2 Hunter victim (VILLAGER)

IT IS NOW NIGHT 3. YOU MAY NOT POST.

the phantom · 12-28-2007, 04:09 PM

The village did not sleep peacefully. During the night there was lightning and thunder, but not from the sky. It was in the clouds that had settled around the village. But it was no normal thunder and lightning. The light was brighter, and whiter, and the thunder was the booming of deep voices speaking words of power, and then crashing together. The voice from the outside was assaulting the fog.

The villagers stayed indoors and shook with terror, fearing the outcome of the battle, and hoping that Werewolves would not seek shelter within their homes.

Shortly before dawn a loud howl was heard, followed by a great deal of noise- the shuffling of feet, the breaking of wood, the thump of bodies landing heavily on the ground, but before it all the unmistakable ringing of a sword being drawn from its sheath.

After several minutes of clatter, a loud yelping was heard, as if some beast had been hurt. And then... silence.

As the dawn came, veiled and cool, the villagers emerged from their houses and were met with a surprise.

No one was missing.

"A victory has been had!" cried the voice outside the encompassing smokes.

"Nay!" answered the fog. "It is I who have had the victory this night."

"So say you!" returned the voice.

And the sun rose above the fog, and the village began to speak.

Living-
Aganzir- hangwoman
Boromir88- assistant to the apprentice to Rikae
Eomer of the Rohirrim- gravedigger
Farael- conspiracy theorist
Isabellkya- hen
Kath- milliner
Legate of Amon Lanc- lamp-maker/fiddler
Macalaure- jailer
mormegil- woodsman/carpenter
Nerwen- miller
Rikae- midwife/wise-woman
The Might- shephard
The Saucepan Man- traveling tinker

Dead-
Nogrod, reticent lumberjack- Day 1 lynch victim (WEREWOLF)
Shastanis Althreduin, herbalist- Night 2 wolf slaughter (VILLAGER)
Valier, basket weaver- Day 2 lynch victim (HUNTER)
Azaelia of Willowbottom, apprentice to Rikae- Day 2 Hunter victim (VILLAGER)

IT IS NOW DAY 3. YOU MAY POST.

Farael · 12-28-2007, 04:23 PM

Hurray for the ranger! If I read the happenings of the night properly, he has defended one of our people successfuly.

I am posting mostly to say that I'm fairly under the weather and my activity level today will probably be low. Now with your excuse I'm going to go away and... craft some conspiracy theories?

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-28-2007, 05:07 PM

Day 2 votes:

Valier: ++Aganzir (Aganzir 1)
Legate: ++Valier (Aganzir 1, Valier 1)
Boro: ++morm (Aganzir 1, Valier 1, morm 1)
Valier: --Aganzir, ++Nerwen (Valier 1, morm 1, Nerwen 1)
The Might: ++Eomer (Valier 1, morm 1, Nerwen 1, Eomer 1)
Nerwen: ++Valier (Valier 2, morm 1, Nerwen 1, Eomer 1)
Rikae: ++Valier (Valier 3, morm 1, Nerwen 1, Eomer 1)
SpM: ++Valier (Valier 4, morm 1, Nerwen 1, Eomer 1)
Mac: ++morm (Valier 4, morm 2, Nerwen 1, Eomer 1)
Morm: ++Nerwen (Valier 4, morm 2, Nerwen 2, Eomer 1)
Aganzir: ++Mac (Valier 4, morm 2, Nerwen 2, Eomer 1, Mac 1)
Farael: ++Valier (Valier 5, morm 2, Nerwen 2, Eomer 1, Mac 1)
Isabellkya: ++Nerwen (Valier 5, morm 2, Nerwen 3, Eomer 1, Mac 1)
Eomer: ++Nerwen (Valier 5, morm 2, Nerwen 4, Eomer 1, Mac 1)

Did not vote: Kath, Azaelia

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Originally Posted by Farael

Hurray for the ranger! If I read the happenings of the night properly, he has defended one of our people successfuly.

That looks to be what happened, and I hope that you are right, but the phanto-mod is a tricksy one, and the Night's events might be interpreted differently. Unlikely, I admit, but we cannot be absolutely certain.

I am afraid to say that I will not be around much toDay, for I have an appointment with my mind's eye to watch a musical enactment of events many years hence on a stage in a strange place called London. I hope, however, to be back before the deadline and I will be around now for a while yet.

**The Saucepan Man** · 12-28-2007, 05:22 PM

A few things that I noticed from the back end of yesterDay:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac

You know, Sauce, until now you were the one I considered to look most innocent. And now you put me on the top of your suspect list (even though you voted Valier) based on that - a possibility? You can't be serious...

Yes, indeed, it was a possibility. But, to my mind, there are no probabilities just yet, only possibilities. And it seemed the most likely to me out of a range of possibilities. As I explained at the time, I voted for Valier because I didn't see much prospect of my top suspect (you) being lynched and I wanted my vote to count. Hmm, who else didn't vote for their top suspect? Ah yes, it was you, wasn't it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac

It's funny that all the people who keep on suspecting me don't dare to put their money where their mouths are.

The way that I am thinking at the moment, I might just take you up on that dare toDay.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Would anyone consider switching to Valier now, in case Kath jumps in and finishes me off?

What are we to make of Nerwen's plea here, just after the deadline? Is it indicative of guilt, innocence, or neither? It sounds genuine to me, but it may well have been a bluff. The problem is, Nerwen has been right there in the thick of things in both Day's voting. I think that it was morm who said yesterDay that Nerwen's death might help to make things clearer. It may sound callous, but that is even more the case now, whether she be Wolfish or not.

Aganzir · 12-27-2007, 03:40 PM

Isabell, see my post #216. I explained my reasons for voting Nogrod and "threatening" Shasta, but if you are curious, I can explain it again with more details.

mormegil · 12-27-2007, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farael

From my part, I can say I voted for Shasta as it was a "safe" vote... not safe as in "I won't get suspected over it" but rather safe in a "well, he's been all over the place, I don't think he's adding to the village and so even if I'm wrong I won't be getting rid of a player who's been coming up with valuable discussion"

Conversely, Nogrod did not look good to me, but I wasn't sold on his guilt and I felt I could've used another day's worth of his posts to determine whether I should vote for him or not.

As it turns out, I was far off

Keep in mind that hindsight is 20-20 but at the time Shasta did not look as Ordo as he does now

Edit: X-ed with... ugh, this doesn't show the last few posts. Ok, whoever wrote after Eomer
Edit: Isabell

Woah! This post throws up red flags all over in my mind. He seems overly genuine, if you take my meaning. I was getting a good vibe on Farael for the most part until this. Granted, it's not enough to make me change my vote but I think it needs to be mentioned. Everything in it seems contrived. I'm not sure why, at this point, he feels the need to explain his vote; especially when there hasn't been many, if any, questions raised about it. Then the 'As it turns out and hindsight being 20/20' lines really bother me.

We have only Zali, Kath and Eomer who haven't voted...obviously Zali isn't likely to vote

Farael · 12-27-2007, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mormegil

Woah! This post throws up red flags all over in my mind. He seems overly genuine, if you take my meaning.

Hahaha Morm I think you and I will never see eye-to-eye. "overly genuine"? please... and the reason I answered Eomer's question is quite simple.

I'm here. I don't have the energy to spend re-reading today's posts. I want to help the village. I can help by explaining something that another villager asked.

Simple as that, if you want to start jumping at shadows be my guest, I'm not going to argue with you until I get a feel that you are furry.

Macalaure · 12-27-2007, 03:51 PM

So it doesn't seem as if today's vote outcome is going to change. I'm not going to sacrifice Nerwen to save Valier, so I'm not going to retract. Let's hope the best.

I think that, lately, Aganzir is a little too confident that no convincing case can be made against her. We shall see.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 12-27-2007, 03:56 PM

I'm not too bothered who goes: Valier or Nerwen. They both seem a little suspicious to me, and I have no-one else I feel stronger about. But voting Nerwen might make for an interesting last couple of minutes.

++NERWEN

Farael · 12-27-2007, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

I'm not too bothered who goes: Valier or Nerwen. They both seem a little suspicious to me, and I have no-one else I feel stronger about. But voting Nerwen might make for an interesting last couple of minutes.

++NERWEN

Now Valier still leads with 5 votes, Nerwen is the runner-up with 4.... a couple minutes to go

Nerwen · 12-27-2007, 04:03 PM

I rather thought Eomer was going to vote me again.

Would anyone consider switching to Valier now, in case Kath jumps in and finishes me off?

Macalaure · 12-27-2007, 04:04 PM

I think the deadline has passed already, so it wouldn't count anyway, I think.

12-27-2007, 03:29 PM	#1
Farael Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In hospitals, call rooms and (rarely) my apartment. Posts: 1,538	From my part, I can say I voted for Shasta as it was a "safe" vote... not safe as in "I won't get suspected over it" but rather safe in a "well, he's been all over the place, I don't think he's adding to the village and so even if I'm wrong I won't be getting rid of a player who's been coming up with valuable discussion" Conversely, Nogrod did not look good to me, but I wasn't sold on his guilt and I felt I could've used another day's worth of his posts to determine whether I should vote for him or not. As it turns out, I was far off Keep in mind that hindsight is 20-20 but at the time Shasta did not look as Ordo as he does now Edit: X-ed with... ugh, this doesn't show the last few posts. Ok, whoever wrote after Eomer Edit: Isabell __________________ I prepared Explosive Runes this morning.

12-27-2007, 04:31 PM	#3
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Day 2 ends.... Valier could only shake her head as the village turned against her. Fools! she thought. Don't they recognize when someone is trying to help? As the villagers closed on her, she drew her Hunting knife and threw it forcefully into their midst. At this nearly every villager rushed her, fearing the further flinging of fast flying blades. But rather than fight she slumped to her knees and accepted the blows that began raining down upon her. I tried, M'Lord... I tried... One by one the villagers turned away from Valier's broken body, knowing that they had not lynched a Werewolf. At last only Azaelia remained in the middle of the square, seemingly doubled over in grief. "Come on, m'dear," said Rikae, walking towards Azaelia. When she reached Azaelia, she placed a gentle hand on her shoulder. "Hurry, my apprentice. It will be night soon." But Azaelia did not move. Eomer strode over and shook her slightly. When he released her, she swayed sideways and spilled out onto her side. The villagers gasped. Protruding from Azaelia's chest was Valier's Hunting knife. "Look at the hilt!" shouted Legate. But there was no need- everyone had spotted it simultaneously. There was a symbol on both sides. They all knew it well, for it was the symbol of Werewolf Hunters everywhere. And then night arrived, more threatening than ever. Living- Aganzir- hangwoman Boromir88- assistant to the apprentice to Rikae Eomer of the Rohirrim- gravedigger Farael- conspiracy theorist Isabellkya- hen Kath- milliner Legate of Amon Lanc- lamp-maker/fiddler Macalaure- jailer mormegil- woodsman/carpenter Nerwen- miller Rikae- midwife/wise-woman The Might- shephard The Saucepan Man- traveling tinker Dead- Nogrod, reticent lumberjack- Day 1 lynch victim (WEREWOLF) Shastanis Althreduin, herbalist- Night 2 wolf slaughter (VILLAGER) Valier, basket weaver- Day 2 lynch victim (HUNTER) Azaelia of Willowbottom, apprentice to Rikae- Day 2 Hunter victim (VILLAGER) IT IS NOW NIGHT 3. YOU MAY NOT POST. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

12-28-2007, 04:09 PM	#4
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Night 3 ends... The village did not sleep peacefully. During the night there was lightning and thunder, but not from the sky. It was in the clouds that had settled around the village. But it was no normal thunder and lightning. The light was brighter, and whiter, and the thunder was the booming of deep voices speaking words of power, and then crashing together. The voice from the outside was assaulting the fog. The villagers stayed indoors and shook with terror, fearing the outcome of the battle, and hoping that Werewolves would not seek shelter within their homes. Shortly before dawn a loud howl was heard, followed by a great deal of noise- the shuffling of feet, the breaking of wood, the thump of bodies landing heavily on the ground, but before it all the unmistakable ringing of a sword being drawn from its sheath. After several minutes of clatter, a loud yelping was heard, as if some beast had been hurt. And then... silence. As the dawn came, veiled and cool, the villagers emerged from their houses and were met with a surprise. No one was missing. "A victory has been had!" cried the voice outside the encompassing smokes. "Nay!" answered the fog. "It is I who have had the victory this night." "So say you!" returned the voice. And the sun rose above the fog, and the village began to speak. Living- Aganzir- hangwoman Boromir88- assistant to the apprentice to Rikae Eomer of the Rohirrim- gravedigger Farael- conspiracy theorist Isabellkya- hen Kath- milliner Legate of Amon Lanc- lamp-maker/fiddler Macalaure- jailer mormegil- woodsman/carpenter Nerwen- miller Rikae- midwife/wise-woman The Might- shephard The Saucepan Man- traveling tinker Dead- Nogrod, reticent lumberjack- Day 1 lynch victim (WEREWOLF) Shastanis Althreduin, herbalist- Night 2 wolf slaughter (VILLAGER) Valier, basket weaver- Day 2 lynch victim (HUNTER) Azaelia of Willowbottom, apprentice to Rikae- Day 2 Hunter victim (VILLAGER) IT IS NOW DAY 3. YOU MAY POST. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important. Last edited by the phantom; 12-28-2007 at 04:23 PM.

12-28-2007, 04:23 PM	#5
Farael Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In hospitals, call rooms and (rarely) my apartment. Posts: 1,538	Hurray for the ranger! If I read the happenings of the night properly, he has defended one of our people successfuly. I am posting mostly to say that I'm fairly under the weather and my activity level today will probably be low. Now with your excuse I'm going to go away and... craft some conspiracy theories? __________________ I prepared Explosive Runes this morning.

12-27-2007, 03:40 PM	#8
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	Isabell, see my post #216. I explained my reasons for voting Nogrod and "threatening" Shasta, but if you are curious, I can explain it again with more details. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

12-27-2007, 03:32 PM	#2
Farael Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In hospitals, call rooms and (rarely) my apartment. Posts: 1,538	Votes (Based on Morm's list) Valier for Agan (Agan 1) Legate for Valier (Agan 1, Valier 1) Boromir for Morm (Agan 1, Valier 1, Morm 1) Valier retracts Agan and votes Nerwen (Valier 1, Morm 1, Nerwen 1) The Might for Eomer (Valier 1, Morm 1, Nerwen 1, Eomer 1) Nerwen for Valier (Valier 2, Morm 1, Nerwen 1, Eomer 1) Rikae for Valier (Valier 3, Morm 1, Nerwen 1, Eomer 1) SpM for Valier (Valier 4, Morm 1, Nerwen 1, Eomer 1) Mac for Morm (Valier 4, Morm 2, Nerwen 1, Eomer 1) Morm for Nerwen (Valier 4, Morm 2, Nerwen 2, Eomer 1) Agan for Mac (Valier 4, Morm 2, Nerwen 2, Eomer 1, Mac 1) Farel for Valier (Valier 5, Morm 2, Nerwen 2, Eomer 1, Mac 1) Isabell for Nerwen (Valier 5, Morm 2, Nerwen 3, Eomer 1, Mac 1) __________________ I prepared Explosive Runes this morning.

12-27-2007, 03:51 PM	#11
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	So it doesn't seem as if today's vote outcome is going to change. I'm not going to sacrifice Nerwen to save Valier, so I'm not going to retract. Let's hope the best. I think that, lately, Aganzir is a little too confident that no convincing case can be made against her. We shall see.

12-27-2007, 03:56 PM	#12
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	I'm not too bothered who goes: Valier or Nerwen. They both seem a little suspicious to me, and I have no-one else I feel stronger about. But voting Nerwen might make for an interesting last couple of minutes. ++NERWEN __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

12-27-2007, 04:03 PM	#14
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	I rather thought Eomer was going to vote me again. Would anyone consider switching to Valier now, in case Kath jumps in and finishes me off?

12-27-2007, 04:04 PM	#15
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	I think the deadline has passed already, so it wouldn't count anyway, I think.