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Old 01-08-2008, 06:46 PM   #1
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Hehe. Did anyone mention that the phantom is a megalo-maniac?

You know, I suspected that something was up in the final two Days. Everyone was acting so - well - strangely. I thought that all of the remaining villagers, after the roles were no longer revealed, had some secret role, but I little guessed that we all had the same one (morm excepted).

Cogratulations morm . Although you were lucky there that my internet connection (which has been dodgy throughout the game) died on me at the last minute. I was planning on retracting and voting for you in the last minute (albeit for the wrong reason - I thought you the most likely innocent out of the three ). Had the timing been right, who knows what would have happened. In fact, phantom, what would have happened if there had been three Cobblers remaining at the end?

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I think we did a pretty darn good job with the odds stacked against us as they were.
Yes, you did a good job, although the odds were not stacked against you. Everyone else was pretty much out for themselves, as it turned out.

A few questions, though.

Were there two Wolf teams?
If so:
- who were they - Nog and Nerwen, Mac and Rikae?
- did they know from the start that they were against each other?
- did they know who each other were?
- how come there was only one kill per Night?
- and which team picked the Cursed (Mac and RIkae, I guess, if they were a team)?

Oh and what on earth happened on Night 3, when Boro protected Mac? Was he attacked by the other Wolf team.

Hmm, I need to digest this some more ...
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Old 01-08-2008, 06:54 PM   #2
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Oh, and it is most amusing how, in a village full of Cobblers (all of whom were presumably trying to vote for the most innocent looking villagers), we managed to accumulate so many votes for Wolves and lynch two of them in the first three Days ...!

The again, I suppose that the Wolves themselves helped out in that regard.
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Old 01-08-2008, 06:59 PM   #3
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One more thought.

I think that we Cobblers should collectively claim a share in morm's victory. After all, it was our objective to see a Wolf survive until the end and we succeeded in that.
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Old 01-09-2008, 02:33 PM   #4
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Oh, and it is most amusing how, in a village full of Cobblers (all of whom were presumably trying to vote for the most innocent looking villagers), we managed to accumulate so many votes for Wolves and lynch two of them in the first three Days ...!

The again, I suppose that the Wolves themselves helped out in that regard.
Indeed! And I find this a bit depressing...

SPM, you really haven't changed since Rikae's game.

An interesting game, but it was a pity that the players weren't allowed to reveal their roles to outsiders...
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An interesting game, but it was a pity that the players weren't allowed to reveal their roles to outsiders...
Yeah, and you would laugh at us as well! Forget that. One phantom and some sidekicks of his were quite enough.

And one more thing. I am not quite sure if morm's victory is a positive thing for us Cobblers. Yes, a Wolf has won, but I would say we should not celebrate the fact that one Wolf has won, but rather be happy that at least one Wolf remained till the end, otherwise we could already be kicking ourselves what miserable Cobblers we are. The last thing that remains for our professional pride is the fact that at least morm remained alive.
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Old 01-09-2008, 03:08 PM   #6
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It's starting to make sense now...

After being lynched on Day1 I just couldn't believe it. Was I playing that badly? I didn't think so. But yes, gathering all those votes from cobblers (and one wolf) that's more understandable.

Mac I must agree with you at least on one thing. Your first post screamed wolf to me and I was (maybe too) happy to go after you then. So I was doing some pretty sincere wolf-hunting there as well. And ending with Mac and Rikae as my main candidates wasn't that bad on the basis of Day1. I indeed PM'd Nerwen before being declared dead that she should try to go for the two so I believe Nerwen was behind the attack on Mac on that Night.

I also said to tp that there was something that was overall strange in that voting on Day1. I can now see why that was.


I don't remember reading a game I have dropped early on this enthusiastically! At one point I remember making tallies about voting just to stay on top of things while reading. Sadly I've had very busy days lately and lost much of the suspense of the last Days.


But excellent game indeed! (if sadly short from my part)

A bow to phantom for a genuine idea and to Fea for intriguing narrations.

And Farael sure was phenomenal. Even if I were a wolf I started to symphatise the villagers because of him and Boro. Sadly that was so wrong as there were no other goodies to symphatise.
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Legate!

When you suddenly turned around and retracted to vote for me in the end of the Day1 I almost yelled out "et tu mi Brute!" to my computer as I couldn't believe you could be doing that on those grounds...

I can see the point now...

Well done!
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When you suddenly turned around and retracted to vote for me in the end of the Day1 I almost yelled out "et tu mi Brute!" to my computer as I couldn't believe you could be doing that on those grounds...

I can see the point now...

Well done!
Yes Actually, I was so convinced the whole Day that you are innocent, that I just yelled "Yay!" at the moment I saw your last post, "Now he made a mistake, this is a good thing to accuse him of! Oh Noggins, Noggins, how could you make such a slip?"

I am really sorry you died that early - but I'm sure you understand. Looking at it from my point of view, an innocent Nogrod who has this close to be lynched, and I am (as I thought) the only Cobbler in the village, and I can do that - now that would be a wonderful thing to do, wouldn't it?
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Oh Noggins, Noggins, how could you make such a slip?
I'm not sure about the slip you mean... but actually I did blunder badly there. (Okay, just a few hours of sleep and all that) But I really could have saved myself at the last minute by retracking and revoting. I had a minute, well not a whole minute but anyway and I realised it only too late. It was partly due, I think, to the fact that I had made a decision not to vote either Nerwen (my mate) or Shasta (whom I felt bad for his track-record of being always voted on Day1) so I needed to focus on something else which meant throwing in a new candidate - and why not a rival wolf then? But I had one-tracked my mind with this so that I didn't notice my chance when I had the seconds to act (as it would have required a vote for either Nerwen or Shasta... eg. Shasta).

But as I said before: well done. That was a reasonable move from you Legate. But at that time I had no idea that you - and indeed the rest of the village - were cobblers. So thence my reaction then.
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After being lynched on Day1 I just couldn't believe it. Was I playing that badly? I didn't think so. But yes, gathering all those votes from cobblers (and one wolf) that's more understandable.
You mustn't forget that you hadn't slept the preveous night...

It sure is tempting to try the style I used on the first Day of SPM's game, which is to vote the person you suspect the least
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in cases unlike Farael 's revelation. I'm glad Mac didn't try to impersonate the Seer and did find it odd that Farael wasn't trusted outright for the lack of a competing "Seer".
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In fact, phantom, what would have happened if there had been three Cobblers remaining at the end?
You would be allowed to live, but would not be declared victors.

Who would have been declared the victor?

Me.
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Nog and Nerwen
Mac and Rikae

They knew there was another team, but did not know who the other team was.

Each night both teams selected a kill and I rolled dice to see which team would be granted their kill.

On Night 3, Nog and Nerwen attacked Mac, an opposing Werewolf. But he was saved by the Ranger, who of course assumed Mac was innocent after that. But then on the same night the Seer dreamed of Mac and knew him to be guilty.

And the Seer had already dreamed of the Ranger, and thus knew to trust him. And the Ranger had been told the identity of the Seer from the outset of the game, and so he knew to trust the Seer as well.

So what we were left with was a Seer and Ranger completely opposed about Mac and yet knowing they should trust one another. It was an amazing turn of events.
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You would be allowed to live, but would not be declared victors.
So, the Cobblers could never have won then ...
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I just thought I'd mention that watching this game was FUN!! It looks so different when you know all the roles.

The narration was great fun as well. I tried to write everything to give one impression while at the same time keeping things muddy enough to go back and read after the fact and come across completely different.
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Why would you say that?

You are welcome to claim a share of morm's victory.
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*sigh* I feel the victory is so tainted. I actually felt like I accomplished something awesome that I've been longing to do since I began WW. Finding out that ultimately everybody wanted me to win lessens that for me. A fun concept but less of a victory for me than I had thought originally. The thought crossed my head days ago that we may all be cobblers. I PMed the Phantom today telling him I had the idea.

Great narration.

On a side note I did call TP a megalomaniac in the game text itself...how right I was

Was me being cursed random? Whatever the Night 3 pick? or was I assigned the role from the outset.
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Yes, I tried that. But I feel a bit of a phoney doing it, having voted in the lynching of two Wolves, voted for another when he was almost lynched and nearly cast the final vote to deny morm his victory ...

But yes, excellent narrations, TP and Fea. I think that you achieved your objective. They certainly helped maintain the complete confusion factor (for me at least). I did particularly like Fea's narration featuring my re-telling of her game.
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Oh my feakin' goodness!!! that was a riot to read.
It sucked that I got lynched so soon, and I just knew it would happen on the day I couldn't defend myself.
wow I was not expecting so many Cobblers, that was cool and very confusing as to who was who at the end.

Great game Phantom, Kudos to you!!
Everyone else great game as well, you all played splendidly. (well besides lynching me)
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do the twist... like we did last summer...

I'd like everybody to see the line that really sealed the deal, when he asked me to be co-narrator. The line that really made me want to write.

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Just that, hm? That's all? You know, just write narratives in which everything is completely the opposite of reality, in which nothing is given away, where nobody will have any idea what is going on, but which, when the game ends, will make total sense, and which, the entire time, is pleasant to read.

How could I ever have resisted the challenge of mistaken identities, strange weather phenomena, and misguidance disguised?

I must admit, I loved it. This game was fun to watch and fun to write for. You all did a great job serving your purpose. Which was obviously just entertaining me and my dear phantom.

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I did particularly like Fea's narration featuring my re-telling of her game.
I particularly liked your re-telling of my game. I was honored to be remembered so long after that game had occurred. I couldn't resist including it, in even greater detail (which took a good bit of time to dredge up in my memory; I'd forgotten some of the key plot points). A bit of vanity and humbleness, neatly combined into one fun monologue. It doesn't matter! She's crazy! He's crazy! We're all bloomin' flappin' crazies 'round here! Wheeeeeeeee!
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Wow.. just wow.. soo many Cobblers. Good job Morm, and thanks TP and Fea for a good game.

First time being a Cobbler.. err secret Cobbler and I must say I was most confused as to how to do it right. I was so sure that Nerwen was actually innocent.. when I saw she was a wolf.. I wanted to bang my head against the screen. :P
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