One Thing in Common - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Thinlómien · 01-11-2008, 01:19 PM

I might be slow today, but I'm afraid I don't get what you're saying, Gwath.

Legate - no and no, like you suspected, it has less to do with Túrin (even though part of the answer is related to him).

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-11-2008, 01:32 PM

Something like that they were the most brave in the battle when a place Túrin was hiding in was destroyed?

Thinlómien · 01-11-2008, 01:37 PM

No...

Ok, I'll take my words about being evil back, for the combination Legate + confused smiley + Quiz Room made me laugh.

Anyway, Legate's second guess remains the one that is closest to what I'm thinking about.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-11-2008, 01:47 PM

Okay. Let me see. Andróg saves Beleg before he dies, but Gwindor does not save anyone before he dies, quite the opposite, Túrin carries him out of the battle. Technically, Andróg saves Beleg and Gwindor saves Túrin, but that's kinda strange and does not seem much as "in common" - well, at maximum I could say "they saved a hero". I really can't think of anything else.

Thinlómien · 01-11-2008, 02:42 PM

Now, first off, I managed to misread the part of the story from CoH that is about the answer (or part of it) so the answer I had in mind is not actually true.

This might make everything confusing, but I can and I will alter the answer, but then it needs stretching a little. If I do it, it actually means that Legate is very very close to the answer with his latest guess.

Yes, Andróg saves Beleg and we could say that Gwindor saves Túrin. That is the part of the answer you got absolutely right. However, that itself doesn't form a connection between the two. And "they both saved a hero", as true as it is, is not original enough. (After all, there are loads of people saving heroes in Tolkien's works.)

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-11-2008, 03:08 PM

Is it, like, some details? Like, that they both saved a hero who was in bonds, cut off his bonds or something like that? Or something else, like, some events that occured at that time? I don't know what you are looking for (once again,

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Thinlómien · 01-11-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Is it, like, some details? Like, that they both saved a hero who was in bonds, cut off his bonds or something like that? Or something else, like, some events that occured at that time?

I'd rather make this easy than difficult and complicated, so I can tell you it has something to do with their relationship with the one they saved.

Gwathagor · 01-11-2008, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I might be slow today, but I'm afraid I don't get what you're saying, Gwath.

I reread my post, and it really didn't make any sense. At all.

Regarding Boromir and the Nazgul: both tried UNSUCCESSFULLY to take the Ring from Frodo.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-12-2008, 06:38 AM

That's a good one, but not the thing I had in mind. One could say, technically, that they did not want to take the Ring, but Frodo as a whole (Ring included). Anyway, I want to say that I wanted another answer. Keep trying.

Thinlómien · 01-12-2008, 02:45 PM

They lost their horses while crossing a river?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-12-2008, 02:46 PM

Very good! That's what I was looking for. Lommy, you may continue the thread.

Thinlómien · 01-12-2008, 03:41 PM

What do Faramir and Sam have in common?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-13-2008, 07:18 AM

Hm, the first thing I thought about is that they are the "second in rank" after a hero, you know what I mean? Boromir -> Faramir, Frodo -> Sam. Though it hardly is what you have in mind. Maybe the fact that they both did not like that Gollum accompanied Frodo?

01-11-2008, 01:19 PM	#1
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	I might be slow today, but I'm afraid I don't get what you're saying, Gwath. Legate - no and no, like you suspected, it has less to do with Túrin (even though part of the answer is related to him). __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

01-11-2008, 01:32 PM	#2
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Something like that they were the most brave in the battle when a place Túrin was hiding in was destroyed? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

01-11-2008, 01:37 PM	#3
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	No... Ok, I'll take my words about being evil back, for the combination Legate + confused smiley + Quiz Room made me laugh. Anyway, Legate's second guess remains the one that is closest to what I'm thinking about. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

01-11-2008, 01:47 PM	#4
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Okay. Let me see. Andróg saves Beleg before he dies, but Gwindor does not save anyone before he dies, quite the opposite, Túrin carries him out of the battle. Technically, Andróg saves Beleg and Gwindor saves Túrin, but that's kinda strange and does not seem much as "in common" - well, at maximum I could say "they saved a hero". I really can't think of anything else. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

01-11-2008, 02:42 PM	#5
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Now, first off, I managed to misread the part of the story from CoH that is about the answer (or part of it) so the answer I had in mind is not actually true. This might make everything confusing, but I can and I will alter the answer, but then it needs stretching a little. If I do it, it actually means that Legate is very very close to the answer with his latest guess. Yes, Andróg saves Beleg and we could say that Gwindor saves Túrin. That is the part of the answer you got absolutely right. However, that itself doesn't form a connection between the two. And "they both saved a hero", as true as it is, is not original enough. (After all, there are loads of people saving heroes in Tolkien's works.) __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

01-11-2008, 03:08 PM	#6
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Is it, like, some details? Like, that they both saved a hero who was in bonds, cut off his bonds or something like that? Or something else, like, some events that occured at that time? I don't know what you are looking for (once again, ) __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

01-12-2008, 06:38 AM	#9
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	That's a good one, but not the thing I had in mind. One could say, technically, that they did not want to take the Ring, but Frodo as a whole (Ring included). Anyway, I want to say that I wanted another answer. Keep trying. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

01-12-2008, 02:45 PM	#10
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	They lost their horses while crossing a river? __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

01-12-2008, 02:46 PM	#11
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Very good! That's what I was looking for. Lommy, you may continue the thread. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

01-12-2008, 03:41 PM	#12
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	What do Faramir and Sam have in common? __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

01-13-2008, 07:18 AM	#13
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Hm, the first thing I thought about is that they are the "second in rank" after a hero, you know what I mean? Boromir -> Faramir, Frodo -> Sam. Though it hardly is what you have in mind. Maybe the fact that they both did not like that Gollum accompanied Frodo? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories