Werewolf XLII: The meaning of life forever

[Meneltarmacil]

A few thoughts for the Day:

-Valier hasn't posted enough for me to really get a handle on what she thinks.

-Legate was behaving rather strangely earlier. He throws his support behind Nogrod's voting idea, with good arguments to match... and then attacks Nogrod for trying to be too helpful, without posting a lot of reasoning for his choice beyond that. This doesn't look good.

Of the two, I'd be more inclined to suspect Legate, but I'd rather hear more from Valier first.

[Valier]

Originally Posted by Legate

For example, why to say this? One idea I got was that it could say "Menel, look, Legate is doing a suspicious thing. - But Legate, of course, noo, I am not suspecting you." Actually, on more points Valier is flip-floppy in the way of "come-bite-back away". Hm.

Not quite sure what your getting at...My reason for that comment is simple. I am normally not so talkative and would question someone who questions me. But today is different, I must talk. There is no one else that I can sit back read and analyze like I normally do. I always have a difficult time expressing what I think and feel, so this time I was writing what I was thinking at the time, hoping this would give more insight as to how I think and feel. This could be seen as flip-floppy, but there is always a way to see the good points and bad points of a person. My mind at the moment IS a little flip-floppy.

Menel, what else do you want of me? I think I have posted at least a wee bit, giving something to think about. Your posts are not helping. Why do you think Legate is more suspicious? Legate where do you stand?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Right now, if you want me to be honest, I am worried. As probably all of us are, but one for a different reason than the remaining two. I must confess that I hoped to provoke some reaction from you, Valier, where you would slip, in case you are a Wolf. Nothing like that occured. I was inclined to trust you more than Menel, but the problem with him is that he is always silent as grave and does not even realise that he is, so one cannot get too clear view of him.

Menel, one question.

Originally Posted by Menel

and then attacks Nogrod for trying to be too helpful, without posting a lot of reasoning for his choice beyond that. This doesn't look good.

Do you realise that attacking Nogrod yesterDay has only very little in-game value? I mean, as a wolf, I would not achieve anything by accusing him, first, there was no lynch yesterDay, so my suspicion could have at maximum brought him under spotlight when the remaining two are dueling him, but second, I could not even have known if he is not a fellow wolf, in which way I would be ruining the victory for myself.

I am around now, so hoping to see Menel post as well, and then we'll see...

[Valier]

Your comment Legate above is what I was talking about about using yesterday as a way to "manipulate" the later voting. The coin always has two sides. One you can say you would never do something because it would not benefit you as a wolf, and on the other side as a wolf you could say you would never do it, then do it, just to confuse others. Does this make sense?

Now the question is do I vote for the more "easier" candidate Menel, as there is not much to go on and he offers no good suspicions or discussions. Or do I go with the more innocent looking Legate, who seems to offer good discussions and has fair reasoning behind his suspicions. But sometimes what seems good and true on the surface, can indeed be furry beneath.

Still hoping to hear more from both of you....

[Meneltarmacil]

OK, basically, Legate, the reason your suspicion of Nogrod doesn't seem to make sense is that you seemed to agree with a lot of Nogrod's ideas, yet constantly felt you had to mention that he was suspicious. I couldn't find an explanation of why he was suspicious in your posts, except for a mention of him trying to hide behind a helpful idea.

What, specifically, did Nogrod do to make you suspect him?

Alas, my hunting skills are unlikely to help a lot here, given that my favored enemy is moose.

[Gil-Galad]

i am totally confused in this game right now... it is going to take me awhile to get my bearing so i will not be voting today...

(i got to re-read the rules because like i said, i am totally confused... great way to start a game...)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Valier

Your comment Legate above is what I was talking about about using yesterday as a way to "manipulate" the later voting. The coin always has two sides. One you can say you would never do something because it would not benefit you as a wolf, and on the other side as a wolf you could say you would never do it, then do it, just to confuse others. Does this make sense?

Oh yes, I understand.

What I was saying concerning the suspicions created yesterDay is that they won't come into effect until Day 1 when all the folks are together again. And that's a long time. For innocent people, yesterDay was the moment when they could post their honest suspicions, without the fear that if they take a bad step, they immediately seal the person's fate. For a Wolf, intentionally constructing suspicion against someone did not bring immediate results and it would only make people focus on him for fabricating a case. And what worse, he could have fabricated a case against a fellow wolf. Yes, everything is possible, but it would take a very bold wolf to risk that much.

Menel, good to see you here. Well, I said it at the beginning - I just had the feeling that there is something bad about Nogrod. I could have picked a person I think suspicious the most, and I chose Nogrod, because he was posting a lot with slightly over-cheerful tone at times (I believe I mentioned this aspect in some post of mine), and while I agreed with his idea of making people vote, he had this stance even before the game started (so he could not have changed his opinion even if he wanted to), and so he could have turned it to his advantage as a wolf. The overall behavior of his, just the way he behaved, made me think that he may rather be pretending to be helpful than really trying to be helpful. So that was the basis of my suspicion against him.

[Valier]

I see what you are saying Legate. That makes sense.

Gil-Galad, reread the rules. there is only 3 warriors who post today.

[Valier]

Originally Posted by Menel

Alas, my hunting skills are unlikely to help a lot here, given that my favored enemy is moose.

I am but a Ranger. But I'm afraid Moose hunter no matter what your wordly powers, you must find another way to help out in this battle.