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The Might · 01-20-2008, 11:00 AM

As usually another fine addition to the collecition, Parmastahir!

I just took a look in the "Worst Tolkien Art" thread also here in M-e Mirth and noticed my post about that Tolkein Calendar with the cat-like Sauron you once showed me.
Maybe you can find the picture of it and post it there as it is in my opinion probably the worst of all Tolkien artworks.

Parmastahir · 01-20-2008, 08:01 PM

is my command. It is done!

Parm

Estelyn Telcontar · 01-21-2008, 08:40 AM

Parmastahir, I have a request as well: Are there any pictures of Middle-earth characters with musical instruments on any of the calendars? I'm looking for some to illustrate a lecture on musical instruments in M-e, and there is next to nothing to be found. The Dwarves' impromptu concert in Bag End would be wonderful, but I'll be happy to have you point me toward anything at all that could give me images on the subject.

I did look through the lists on your site briefly, but there's so much there that I couldn't find my way to something so specific.

Parmastahir · 01-21-2008, 07:31 PM

you shall have it. The 1999 and 2003 calendars of Colin Williams contain the following illustrations:

March 99 - Bofur w/clarinet
April 99 - Bombur w/drum + sticks
May 99 - Fili + Kili w/ fiddles
Jan 03 - Dwalin w/ viol
Feb 03 - Balin w/ viol
Mar 03 - Dori + Nori w/ flutes
Apr 03 - Oin w/ recorder (?)
May 03 - Ori w/ flute
June 03 - Bifur w/ clarinet
JULY 03 - THE ENTIRE DWARF BAND IN BAG END!
Aug 03 - Gloin w/ ???

(It is not told what instruments Oín and Gloín played. Mr. Williams portrayed each with an instrument but I can not say with certainty what they are. Shall I ask him?)

The best that I could do is photograph them from the A3 size calendars (larger size illustrations than the A4) and send hi-res files of them to you. How shall I get them to you? I could burn the .jpg files on a CD and mail them to you, or possible email them (assuming large files won't "choke" either of our email services should I send them one at a time). Suggest you contact me via my website and we'll take this off-line. Also, when do you need them? I would prefer to shoot them in natural daylight. But the days are short, so that would mean that I would have to do so on a sunny weekend day (this Saturday or Sunday).

As others have supported me and my quest, it would be my great pleasure to do so for you.

Away from The Green Hill Country,

Parmastahir

mark12_30 · 01-21-2008, 07:52 PM

*cough* too bad they can't be, you know. posted for all to enjoy...

Estelyn Telcontar · 01-22-2008, 03:40 AM

Parmastahir, do you know if those illustrations are from an Australian version of The Hobbit? If so, I might be able to find them online - I have found a wonderful site with illustrations from from various international editions of the book. It has several very interesting pictures of the instrument-playing Dwarves there.

If nothing shows up online, I will most certainly contact you for those illustrations - thank you! As to "when" - no hurry yet; the lecture will be held at the Tolkien Seminar in April here in Germany.

Yes, in the book Oín and Gloín are not mentioned as playing an instrument, so it will be interesting to see how they are portrayed. I always wondered if they might simply have been unmusical!

Parmastahir · 01-22-2008, 07:03 AM

Mr. Williams is an amateur illustrator who has been making Tolkien calendars as Christmas presents for family and friends since 1999. Less than 40 copies of each calendar (same artwork in both the A3 and A4 sizes) exist. His artwork is otherwise unpublished. Therefore, those that I listed are not found anywhere else.

Thank you for the H.O.B.B.I.T.I.S.H. website link. Several fellow collectors specialize in The Hobbit. So I will forward that link to them.

I remain at your service and will proceed when and as you advise!

Away from The Green Hill Country,

Parmastahir

01-20-2008, 11:00 AM	#1
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	As usually another fine addition to the collecition, Parmastahir! I just took a look in the "Worst Tolkien Art" thread also here in M-e Mirth and noticed my post about that Tolkein Calendar with the cat-like Sauron you once showed me. Maybe you can find the picture of it and post it there as it is in my opinion probably the worst of all Tolkien artworks. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

01-20-2008, 08:01 PM	#2
Parmastahir Wight Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Green Hill Country Posts: 196	Your wish . . . is my command. It is done! Parm __________________ Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends.

01-21-2008, 08:40 AM	#3
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Parmastahir, I have a request as well: Are there any pictures of Middle-earth characters with musical instruments on any of the calendars? I'm looking for some to illustrate a lecture on musical instruments in M-e, and there is next to nothing to be found. The Dwarves' impromptu concert in Bag End would be wonderful, but I'll be happy to have you point me toward anything at all that could give me images on the subject. I did look through the lists on your site briefly, but there's so much there that I couldn't find my way to something so specific. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

01-21-2008, 07:31 PM	#4
Parmastahir Wight Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Green Hill Country Posts: 196	You wanted wonderful . . . you shall have it. The 1999 and 2003 calendars of Colin Williams contain the following illustrations: March 99 - Bofur w/clarinet April 99 - Bombur w/drum + sticks May 99 - Fili + Kili w/ fiddles Jan 03 - Dwalin w/ viol Feb 03 - Balin w/ viol Mar 03 - Dori + Nori w/ flutes Apr 03 - Oin w/ recorder (?) May 03 - Ori w/ flute June 03 - Bifur w/ clarinet JULY 03 - THE ENTIRE DWARF BAND IN BAG END! Aug 03 - Gloin w/ ??? (It is not told what instruments Oín and Gloín played. Mr. Williams portrayed each with an instrument but I can not say with certainty what they are. Shall I ask him?) The best that I could do is photograph them from the A3 size calendars (larger size illustrations than the A4) and send hi-res files of them to you. How shall I get them to you? I could burn the .jpg files on a CD and mail them to you, or possible email them (assuming large files won't "choke" either of our email services should I send them one at a time). Suggest you contact me via my website and we'll take this off-line. Also, when do you need them? I would prefer to shoot them in natural daylight. But the days are short, so that would mean that I would have to do so on a sunny weekend day (this Saturday or Sunday). As others have supported me and my quest, it would be my great pleasure to do so for you. Away from The Green Hill Country, Parmastahir __________________ Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends. Last edited by Parmastahir; 01-21-2008 at 07:35 PM.

01-21-2008, 07:52 PM	#5
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	cough too bad they can't be, you know. posted for all to enjoy... __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

01-22-2008, 03:40 AM	#6
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Parmastahir, do you know if those illustrations are from an Australian version of The Hobbit? If so, I might be able to find them online - I have found a wonderful site with illustrations from from various international editions of the book. It has several very interesting pictures of the instrument-playing Dwarves there. If nothing shows up online, I will most certainly contact you for those illustrations - thank you! As to "when" - no hurry yet; the lecture will be held at the Tolkien Seminar in April here in Germany. Yes, in the book Oín and Gloín are not mentioned as playing an instrument, so it will be interesting to see how they are portrayed. I always wondered if they might simply have been unmusical! __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

01-22-2008, 07:03 AM	#7
Parmastahir Wight Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Green Hill Country Posts: 196	Williams Illustrations Mr. Williams is an amateur illustrator who has been making Tolkien calendars as Christmas presents for family and friends since 1999. Less than 40 copies of each calendar (same artwork in both the A3 and A4 sizes) exist. His artwork is otherwise unpublished. Therefore, those that I listed are not found anywhere else. Thank you for the H.O.B.B.I.T.I.S.H. website link. Several fellow collectors specialize in The Hobbit. So I will forward that link to them. I remain at your service and will proceed when and as you advise! Away from The Green Hill Country, Parmastahir __________________ Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends.