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Alfirin · 01-22-2008, 07:31 PM

[QUOTE=Formendacil;414935]According to dictionary.com, swarthy means:

In other words, these swarthy men were darker skinned than those the narrator would be most familiar with. If this means they were darker in the manner of southern Italians or Arabs (darker than those of more Teutonic descent) or really and truly swarthy in the manner of Africans, who knows.

I think that Swarthy in this case would refer to a skin tone of the first listed, simlar to those of Mediteranian or Middle Eastern descent. Actual skin tome of the kind that one would assocaite with those of Indegenous African descent appeared to be reseved for those from Far Harad who are noted by Tolkein as having skin much darker than the merely swarthy Near Haradrians.
This leads to an intersting question. If the Lossoth are indeed based on the Inuit would they be considered a "swarthy" race in ME?

Elmo · 01-24-2008, 01:36 PM

Surely Minas Ithil was a proper city before it was captured a twin if you will of Minas Anor to the west with a large amount of folk dwelling there. Though is it technically in Mordor? I don't think so. Anyhow it wouldn't have been a nice place to live as I previously stated in this thread.

01-24-2008, 01:36 PM	#2
Elmo Pittodrie Poltergeist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: trying to find that warm and winding lane again Posts: 633	Surely Minas Ithil was a proper city before it was captured a twin if you will of Minas Anor to the west with a large amount of folk dwelling there. Though is it technically in Mordor? I don't think so. Anyhow it wouldn't have been a nice place to live as I previously stated in this thread. __________________ As Beren looked into her eyes within the shadows of her hair, The trembling starlight of the skies he saw there mirrored shimmering.

01-22-2008, 07:31 PM	#1
Alfirin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 435	[QUOTE=Formendacil;414935]According to dictionary.com, swarthy means: In other words, these swarthy men were darker skinned than those the narrator would be most familiar with. If this means they were darker in the manner of southern Italians or Arabs (darker than those of more Teutonic descent) or really and truly swarthy in the manner of Africans, who knows. I think that Swarthy in this case would refer to a skin tone of the first listed, simlar to those of Mediteranian or Middle Eastern descent. Actual skin tome of the kind that one would assocaite with those of Indegenous African descent appeared to be reseved for those from Far Harad who are noted by Tolkein as having skin much darker than the merely swarthy Near Haradrians. This leads to an intersting question. If the Lossoth are indeed based on the Inuit would they be considered a "swarthy" race in ME?