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davem · 05-20-2003, 02:13 AM

Findegil, I accept that Morgoth couldn't break Hurin's spirit, only his mind & body. But he was clearly ONLY interested in seeing Hurin's spirit broken, which is why he dealt with him as he did. I think the starting point of that desire was the way Hurin spoke to him when he was brought before him. Morgoth would not have taken that from a 'pathetic, upstart human'. Morgoth decided to completely break Hurin.So, while from our point of view, everything Hurin said about Morgoth was true, Morgoth simply was not going to respond 'You know, Hurin, yopu're right, I have been a thoroughly bad lot over the years, haven't I?. So, it was Hurin's PROUD defiance of him that provoked Morgoth into what he did to Hurin. Actually, I don't much think he cared about destroying Turin & the rest of his family - that was just a good way of teaching Hurin a lesson & breaking his spirit.

05-20-2003, 02:13 AM	#12
davem Illustrious Ulair Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In the home of lost causes, and forsaken beliefs, and unpopular names,and impossible loyalties Posts: 4,240	Findegil, I accept that Morgoth couldn't break Hurin's spirit, only his mind & body. But he was clearly ONLY interested in seeing Hurin's spirit broken, which is why he dealt with him as he did. I think the starting point of that desire was the way Hurin spoke to him when he was brought before him. Morgoth would not have taken that from a 'pathetic, upstart human'. Morgoth decided to completely break Hurin.So, while from our point of view, everything Hurin said about Morgoth was true, Morgoth simply was not going to respond 'You know, Hurin, yopu're right, I have been a thoroughly bad lot over the years, haven't I?. So, it was Hurin's PROUD defiance of him that provoked Morgoth into what he did to Hurin. Actually, I don't much think he cared about destroying Turin & the rest of his family - that was just a good way of teaching Hurin a lesson & breaking his spirit. __________________ “Everything was an object. If you killed a dwarf you could use it as a weapon – it was no different to other large heavy objects."