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Eönwë · 02-05-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

bange

What is that meant to say? I'm sorry, but I really can't understand what word fits there, maybe "obtained" but that no even near how its spelt.

Anyway, all the points I was going to make on this thread have already been said, so there is no point repeating.

Boromir88 · 02-05-2008, 04:18 PM

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What us that meant to say. I'm sorry, but I really can't understand what word fits there, maybe "obtained" but that no even near how its spelt.

That was a horrible typo on my part. It's supposed to be "began," don't ask me how I typed "bange." It probably had something to do with my being up at 3 AM and writing that post. Anyway, it's "began," I'll go and fix that now.

Eönwë · 02-06-2008, 04:34 PM

I can't really cmplain, what with my spelling is as us

Azaelia of Willowbottom · 02-07-2008, 07:19 PM

There's no evidence to back this up, but perhaps part of the reason Bilbo started feeling tired and "stretched" could be because he was a genuinely good soul. Perhaps the Ring was wearing him down.

Gollum on the other hand was already a corrupt individual--he had within him the desire to kill for the Ring, and so perhaps he reacted differently to posession of it?

The Ring wore on Bilbo, but in the end his soul was still pure and resilient enough to actually act on the idea of passing it to Frodo (granted, with some encouragement). The Ring twisted Gollum to a greater extent. He became tough and cruel.

Maybe it also has to do with how people came into posession of the Ring. Gollum got it by murder; Bilbo through a less potent combination of accident/fate and trickery.

I dunno. Just a thought, and not a very well-articulated one at that.

Raynor · 02-10-2008, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Azaelia of Willowbottom

Maybe it also has to do with how people came into posession of the Ring. Gollum got it by murder; Bilbo through a less potent combination of accident/fate and trickery.

I agree:

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Originally Posted by Shadow of the past, FotR

It was Pity that stayed his hand. Pity, and Mercy: not to strike without need. And he has been well rewarded, Frodo. Be sure that he took so little hurt from the evil, and escaped in the end, because he began his ownership of the Ring so. With Pity.

Inziladun · 02-11-2008, 08:17 PM

I think Gollum's lust for the Ring had a noteworthy effect on him. Aragorn said as much:

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His malice is great and gives him a strength hardly to be believed in one so lean and withered.

As was said earlier, he had been almost completely possessed by the Ring, unlike Bilbo.

MaultheStoor · 03-13-2008, 06:50 AM

*insulted*
Just kidding. I think the Ring had the effect it did on Gollum was because he "wore it until it tired him." He must have had it on day and night, and he also had it longer.

02-06-2008, 04:34 PM	#3
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02-07-2008, 07:19 PM	#4
Azaelia of Willowbottom Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: By the Sea Posts: 446	There's no evidence to back this up, but perhaps part of the reason Bilbo started feeling tired and "stretched" could be because he was a genuinely good soul. Perhaps the Ring was wearing him down. Gollum on the other hand was already a corrupt individual--he had within him the desire to kill for the Ring, and so perhaps he reacted differently to posession of it? The Ring wore on Bilbo, but in the end his soul was still pure and resilient enough to actually act on the idea of passing it to Frodo (granted, with some encouragement). The Ring twisted Gollum to a greater extent. He became tough and cruel. Maybe it also has to do with how people came into posession of the Ring. Gollum got it by murder; Bilbo through a less potent combination of accident/fate and trickery. I dunno. Just a thought, and not a very well-articulated one at that. __________________ "Wherever I have been, I am back."

03-13-2008, 06:50 AM	#7
MaultheStoor Animated Skeleton Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The cave under the Misty Mountains. Just take a wrong turn in the goblin's tunnels. Posts: 34	insulted Just kidding. I think the Ring had the effect it did on Gollum was because he "wore it until it tired him." He must have had it on day and night, and he also had it longer. __________________ Leave now, and never come back! Gollum, Gollum! See? You made him mad.