Or no Hobbits at all...

[Galin]

Originally Posted by Sauron the White

Please... please ... no patronizing lectures from on high about my being off topic. The topic here was "or no hobbits at all". And you keep talking about the use of Elvish in the LOTR films. Seems the pot is calling the kettle black.

In my last post I admitted the languages were off-topic here.

And earlier when you began (post 83): 'What does it matter to the construction, flow and success of LOTR as a film...' (see above) I responded with: 'That's a different discussion that I have not really entered into here. If you want to start a new thread on it I will be happy to read it and maybe contribute.'

In any case, the issue is not so much topic, but the topic in context.

All I am trying to do is discuss an issue you posted about here. With all due respect to you, I reserve the right to approach it in the way I feel is best. Thank you.

Feel free. You don't need to quote something from my posts to form a soapbox for your opinions on 'film success' however.

And intended or not, I feel you are misrepresenting my argument by doing so, as the contexts are different (for example [currently] post 88).

I have no problem with you giving your opinion on accuracy in general but at the end of post 91 it seems implied that my argument concerning 'accuracy' is something it is not; and it only takes a few moments to word a post for better clarity in this regard.

[Sauron the White]

from Galin

In any case, the issue is not so much topic,

really? It seems to be something that you have brought up a couple of times until you were called on it.

but the topic in context.

The context here is not as narrow as you want to keep it. As the moderators have explained over and over in many threads, discussion of the work of JRRT and the movies that flow for that work is on topic regardless of the ebb and flow of how a thread evolves.

It does seem really bizarre and highly irregular for you to even mention being off topic when this thread was started to discuss the possibility that there may not be any HOBBIT films at all. You eventually mentioning that reality in no way diminiishes your own deviation from that orginal thread topic.

Lets get back to the thread topic of no more hobbits if we can.

[Galin]

I think the thread as it stands shows that I meant I wanted to keep the topic in context (for my part anyway).

The context here is not as narrow as you want to keep it. As the moderators have explained over and over in many threads, discussion of the work of JRRT and the movies that flow for that work is on topic regardless of the ebb and flow of how a thread evolves.

I said feel free to enlarge the context as you like -- just try and do it in a way that does not misrepresent my argument please.

Lets get back to the thread topic of no more hobbits if we can.

I'm all for that

[Sauron the White]

from Galin

I think the thread as it stands shows that I meant I wanted to keep the topic in context (for my part anyway).

This thread was started to discuss the legal actions taken by the Tolkien Estate and how it may end up finishing off the idea of the 2 possible HOBBIT films.

Your posts have continually discussed the Elvish language in the Jackson films.

How in the world can you now say with a straight face that you meant to keep the topic in context? Elvish language and its use or misuse has nothing to do with the original topic of this thread.

And what is with this "for my part anyway"? It was your part that played a significant role in getting this off the topic that the thread started with. Is that qualfier some sort of public show of washing your hands to show that you are without any responsibility? The first 61 posts in this thread dealt with the topic. Then one person mentioned languages in passing as a tiny part of thread 62.... then you turned it into some major platform and have run with it ever since.

As I have said, the threads flow and evolve the way they do and the mods have said that as long as we discuss Tolkien or the films it is okay. But to first change the topic of the thread and then lecture me that I am not discussing it in the context you want to is completely bizarre.