Werewolf XLVI: Getting Back to Basics

[Kath]

So...she didn't want to vote for Nogrod because of suspicions, but Legate is okay from a choice between he and Gwath?

No Oddwen, I didn't want to vote for Nog because in any game I play with him I find him suspicious. The second he starts posting the tone strikes me as wolvish. However, as I know this to be the case, I try not to vote for him Day 1 in order to give my kneejerk reaction time to settle down and actually look for reasons as to why I think him suspicious. Gwath and Legate on the other hand I found suspicious not just as an automatic reaction to their mere presence, and so they were the choices for my vote.

ToDay, I think Legate is still in the running for that vote. His attack on sally looks a little too forced to me. Indeed, if sally were a wolf I sincerely doubt that she would have made that vote that brough Nog and Gwath to a tie. That's incredibly brave forward planning if that was the case, and while I wouldn't put it past her to be that brave, I don't think there would have been time in the last minute voting rush for it to be that well planned. I may have another look at Legate, I ignored him the last couple of Days due to the need for early voting and my own sleepiness. It will have to wait a bit though.

[Mithalwen]

I am here. Still kicking myself for letting up on Nogrod at the last minute - again .. having harped on the same note for 3 days I once again doubted myself ..and failed ot vote for the woluf when it counted. .

I don't have a lot of time now but what I intend to do after work is read through in the light of the knowledge we have gained. Two wolves, a seer, some ordos. We have done well but the very first WW game was won by a lone wolf who had seen his comrades die in Day ! and 2 lynches. We can't relax here

I guess this was the classic 3 wolf and seer game but we can't be certain. If there were another special role, cobbler would be my guess.. or maybe it just seems like there are cobblers here!!

[Oddwen]

Originally Posted by Mith

Still kicking myself for letting up on Nogrod at the last minute - again .. having harped on the same note for 3 days I once again doubted myself ..and failed ot vote for the woluf when it counted.

...and did vote for someone else quite randomly.

Elf Warrior:

Originally Posted by EW

Yellow light:
Kath. I haven't seen much suspicious behaviour, but Kath being a wolf would seem to fit in with Gwath's lycanthropy. That doesn't mean she's a wolf, though.

Well, who wouldn't "fit", anyone would "fit" if you look at it from the right angle.

I just think that the suspicions against Kath are a bit off - her posts look fairly normal to me.

I'm quite convinced that what went on between Sally & Nogrod yesterday was supposed to look too obvious to be obviously obvious - if she's not a wolf, I'm willing to bet she's a cobbler.

Third time's a charm? *crosses fingers*

++SALLY

[Mithalwen]

So very much true to type then Oddone? And given your vote you cant' condemn me to much for my choice.... Trouble is I know I work too much from instinct - but sometimes they can be right though I can't really explain why they feel so right, eg Nogrod. Other times I can be spectacularly off which is why Nogrod's where is your proof finally got to me .... anyway I need to do my read through so......

[Kath]

Ah here we see the downside of the deaths of loud players! Though it is nice not to have so much to catch up on.

At any rate, I said I would look at Legate so I will do that, have a quick look at what's been going on toDay and then vote and head off. It's going to be note form I'm afraid as I'm in a bit of a rush to finish before my housemates have finished making me dinner!

Legate:
Ooh I missed this, there was discussion of the number of wolves. Perhaps not suspicious in itself, or an aim to cause confusion. Says Nog and Mith are the wolves. A clever bluff? Mention Nog along with someone a wolvish Legate knows to be innocent? Then says Nog is actually innocent. Argues with Lommy, does an immediate turn around and says she's innocent. Covers his trail there if he is a wolf and killed her. Gave Gwath the all clear. Not sure about this, would a wolvish Legate clear both his fellows? Ah a mention of me regarding Mith. I said she's playing for fun, which made me think her innocent. The reason I say this for Mith is because if she is anything other than ordo she tends to freak out a bit, thus far I haven't seen that from her so I'm thinking innocent. It may be that she has got better at covering her tracks, I don't know. Varied his suspicion of Gwath through the Day, lowering it more as it got closer to deadline time. Why the wink when he says he might vote Nogrod? Then finally a no vote. Didn't know how not to make a vote look suspicious at the end?

Says who Lhuna didn't dream of, which is an odd way to start. Also starts suspicion of Nog up. This though, is making me think not a fellow wolf. Although I think it possible that Nog would be willing to be sacrificed by Legate in order to make him look spotless. But so early in the game? Had pretty much cleared Gwath the Day before yet has him in the Orange Zone, saying it was like the Day before that he found him somewhat suspicious. Hedging his bets? But to have both fellows as top suspects would be brave. Votes Nog, and says he doesn't mind Nog or Gwath going. It's a very bold game for a fellow wolf.

Thought Sally would die not Volo, and decides he needs to re-look at Nog given Gwath being a wolf, maybe taking the chance to clear Nog's name? Circular argument over whether there could be a Gwath-Nog duo. Pretty much clears Nog from his suspicion list. Then pulls him back onto it. Me too it seems, for repeating something he said. As it happens I was replying to Lommy not Legate so didn't know I was doing such a thing. Votes me but reiterates suspicion of Nog.

'I knew Nog was one' is an interesting way to start the Day considering the Day before he'd been so completely unsure he hadn't been able to bring himself to vote for Nog.

Hmm, do you know I'm wrong about Mith. A couple of her posts on Day 2 are actually quite defensive. As for the leaving threat ... well that I recall from a past game.

Also, the more I've read of Sally the more suspicious I'm finding her. Maybe Legate's arguments on her aren't quite as odd as they looked. But then Legate says Sally never interacted with Nog and that's not strictly true. While they may not have directly spoken to each other almost everything Sally was doing was based around what Nog was doing.

I've now ended up with three suspects. I simply can't make up my mind on Legate. He feels so suspicious to me but when I try to find evidence to back up why it just takes me round in circles. Mith is slowly starting to rise up that suspicion list too but I want to see more from her before I decide on anything. Sally - I just have trouble believing anyone could follow so blindly. Has she been a wolf before? Would she follow because Nog was more experienced? I think it's possible, but at the same time, to make it so obvious?

No, I'm going to go with my original suspicion.

++LEGATE

Because he did argue in circles with Gwath, and he did change his suspicion on Nog depending on which way the village wind was blowing. I don't like this vote. I'm unsure and I don't like that I'm voting for someone who may not be back to defend himself, as it usually strikes me as unfair. But, he is top of my suspicion list.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Kath

Indeed, if sally were a wolf I sincerely doubt that she would have made that vote that brough Nog and Gwath to a tie. That's incredibly brave forward planning if that was the case, and while I wouldn't put it past her to be that brave, I don't think there would have been time in the last minute voting rush for it to be that well planned.

I don't understand your point, Kath. To whoever Wolf #3 is (I'm not saying it's Sally), it must have been clear by then that Nogrod had decided to sacrifice Gwath– if it is indeed Sally, it would be just a matter of following suit.

EDOT: fixed bolding.