Tapestry of Dreams, Part 2 Discussion - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

mark12_30 · 06-03-2008, 06:24 PM

Okay, so, that's fatal.

I'm flummoxed.

I guess that's one way to end the story a lot faster.

littlemanpoet · 06-03-2008, 06:42 PM

Well, we don't have to leave it that way; but you can bet Tharonwë would do that if there was "no eagles", as we say. I'm open to possibilities. Perhaps I wrote the worst case scenario. I would like to see what can be made of it, though. Here are some options:

Mellondu is dead and Amroth is marooned with Nimrodel but Aeron and Gwyllion are there to aid them, being ghosts, and this has been their destiny from the get-go.
Raefindan runs to Mellondu instead of toward Tharonwë and applies 21st century medical knowledge vis a vi breaking the arrow on both ends then applying pressure to the neck, so that Mellondu does not lose blood.
Raefindan effects some of the same power he exhibited in overthrowing Tharonwë's will by miraculously healing both Mellondu and Erebemlin, or even raising them from the dead.
Jorje sees what's about to happen and tackles Tharonwë before he can get the first arrow off and it flies awry but mortally wounds Leafa who with her dying breath sings that one song's final verse to Ædegard: "It will not be long love till our wedding day".
Raefindan sees "in his spirit" (being who and what he is) realizes what's about to happen and interferes somehow.

These are the options I can think of. Others? What do you think? Erebemlin's fate is not certain.

littlemanpoet · 06-03-2008, 07:35 PM

The post with dreams listed by dreamer is complete. Some day I'm going to have to read this whole story from beginning to end. It's really quite a tale we've wrought here.

alaklondewen · 06-03-2008, 08:02 PM

What would Mithrellas do in this situation? Would she or could she rush to the blacksmith and Erebemlin to provide some sort of Elvish care, prayer, or healing?

If Erebemlin survives, I see him losing his speech, which would provide some interesting and challenging writing.

littlemanpoet · 06-04-2008, 04:45 AM

I have the solution. Please continue to put together your posts as if nothing has happened. Writing those options and then sleeping on it has helped me know what to do. Originally I saw this all from Tharonwe's point of view, and now I see it from Raefindan's. I'm going to keep you in suspense for just a little bit, but I need at least one of you to post before I do again. Let me reiterate: please continue as if nothing in that last post has happened.

littlemanpoet · 06-14-2008, 07:25 AM

Characters and themes that have yet to be worked in:

Note: everything below is suggestion, not certainty.

Aeron and Gwyllion are there to aid them, being ghosts, and this has been their destiny from the get-go.
Raefindan brings rain into the spirit realm where Amroth and Nimrodel hold their drama
Mithrellas - osanwë? Should she be Nimrodel's aid the way Erebemlin is for Amroth?
Ædegard - he's here for Mellondu - but what can he do?
Leafa - wow, I really don't know what to do with her past singing.
Jorje - I'm kind of lost here too.
Taitheneb returns - this is alak's task
Indil/Angela - I'd almost forgotten about her! What might she do?

Meanwhile, Raefindan continues to hold Tharonwë in check. Maybe I need to work on finding ideas for these characters from your posts, Helen. I'm really struggling with everybody but Tharonwë right now, and him soon too. I guess I like to know where things are headed in order to know what's happening now; not so good at just "following my nose". Hmm... not so good at prophetic writing.

Any ideas?

EDIT: well, that worked in Gwyllion and Aeron after all, and Ædegard and Leafa a little bit; but they need more. I'm still thinking about that Raefindan/rain thing...

mark12_30 · 06-14-2008, 11:26 AM

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Aeron and Gwyllion are there to aid them, being ghosts, and this has been their destiny from the get-go.

Adding their "sulkiness" to Tharonwe's "sulkiness" could prove really hellish. Nice touch.

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Raefindan brings rain into the spirit realm where Amroth and Nimrodel hold their drama

Washing away all that ash... Ahh, soo sweet. Bringing spring back again? Hold off, don't do it for a while. BUt it will be wow when it does happen.

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Mithrellas - osanwë? Should she be Nimrodel's aid the way Erebemlin is for Amroth?

So far she's been signposting: standing back and pointing out what is going on. "Playing Captain Obvious", so to speak,. "She heard you, my lord!" I agree that more would be good but she's been with Nimrodel for a thousand years and has never gotten through yet. BUt Mithrellas knows Nimrodel like the back of her hand and is an invaluable reality-check. EDIT [Maybe she's Raefindan's GUide for part of this.]
Avarien departed too quickly, perhaps. COuld she be lingering Osanwe-wise somewhere near? Hadn't thought of that. Maybe she gets "sent back for a time"-- if she's needed in some way. Gah. Shelving that for the moment.

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Ædegard - he's here for Mellondu - but what can he do?

Build wheels. I'm only partly kiddling. THe essence of who he is should play the strongest part. Maybe some fundamentally Rohirric thing will Matter. Maybe just his original befriending of Amroth/Mellondu. THe snowball fight.

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Leafa - wow, I really don't know what to do with her past singing.

See above. She was a gypsy? Wisdom about drawbacks of the wandering lifestyle?

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Jorje - I'm kind of lost here too.

He's been center stage thus far! He's been great, with Tharonwe.
Taitheneb returns - this is alak's task

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Indil/Angela - I'd almost forgotten about her! What might she do?

What would Raefindan expect her to do?

littlemanpoet · 06-14-2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mark12_30

Adding their "sulkiness" to Tharonwe's "sulkiness" could prove really hellish. Nice touch.

Thanks. I like how it's kind of comical.

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Washing away all that ash... Ahh, soo sweet. Bringing spring back again? Hold off, don't do it for a while. BUt it will be wow when it does happen.

Okay, I like that too. And Mithrellas being his guide - well, does he need one, considering how I'm writing him?

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Avarien departed too quickly, perhaps. COuld she be lingering Osanwe-wise somewhere near? Hadn't thought of that. Maybe she gets "sent back for a time"-- if she's needed in some way. Gah. Shelving that for the moment.

That Mellonin is mind communicating to Ravion and he back, tells me that Avarien is not really gone.

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Build wheels. I'm only partly kiddling. THe essence of who he is should play the strongest part. Maybe some fundamentally Rohirric thing will Matter. Maybe just his original befriending of Amroth/Mellondu. THe snowball fight.

In other words, friendship plain and simple. Okay.

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See above. She was a gypsy? Wisdom about drawbacks of the wandering lifestyle?

Okay, but I'm no good at gypsy lifestyle. Drawbacks of wandering? Okay, maybe I could do something with that.

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What would Raefindan expect Indil/Angela to do?

That actually doesn't help at all because she's still a mystery to Raefindan; but on second thought that actually helps, because then I at least know that whatever she is going to do is going to be a surprise to everybody. After all, we're dealing with a very unique construct at this point, a little girl who is descended from Mithrellas combined with the soul and spirit of a 21st century young woman who has already experienced both earthly love and paradise, and knows it. (trampling all over Hebrews "only once to live" here, but so did Tolkien I guess).

So I think my next post is probably going to be something more with Tharonwë, which makes it your turn. Anything from Indil/Angela is down the road a bit, just like Raefindan's rain.

mark12_30 · 06-09-2015, 08:39 PM

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Bump.

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Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

Characters and themes that have yet to be worked in:

Note: everything below is suggestion, not certainty.

Aeron and Gwyllion are there to aid them, being ghosts, and this has been their destiny from the get-go.
Raefindan brings rain into the spirit realm where Amroth and Nimrodel hold their drama
Mithrellas - osanwë? Should she be Nimrodel's aid the way Erebemlin is for Amroth?
Ædegard - he's here for Mellondu - but what can he do?
Leafa - wow, I really don't know what to do with her past singing.
Jorje - I'm kind of lost here too.
Taitheneb returns - this is alak's task
Indil/Angela - I'd almost forgotten about her! What might she do?

Meanwhile, Raefindan continues to hold Tharonwë in check. Maybe I need to work on finding ideas for these characters from your posts, Helen. I'm really struggling with everybody but Tharonwë right now, and him soon too. I guess I like to know where things are headed in order to know what's happening now; not so good at just "following my nose". Hmm... not so good at prophetic writing.

Any ideas?

EDIT: well, that worked in Gwyllion and Aeron after all, and Ædegard and Leafa a little bit; but they need more. I'm still thinking about that Raefindan/rain thing...

littlemanpoet · 06-10-2015, 04:44 AM

Thanks. This helps. I hope to have some time to look at this story in detail, perhaps through this weekend.

piosenniel · 05-11-2020, 01:41 PM

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06-03-2008, 06:24 PM	#1
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Okay, so, that's fatal. I'm flummoxed. I guess that's one way to end the story a lot faster. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

06-03-2008, 06:42 PM	#2
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Well, we don't have to leave it that way; but you can bet Tharonwë would do that if there was "no eagles", as we say. I'm open to possibilities. Perhaps I wrote the worst case scenario. I would like to see what can be made of it, though. Here are some options: Mellondu is dead and Amroth is marooned with Nimrodel but Aeron and Gwyllion are there to aid them, being ghosts, and this has been their destiny from the get-go. Raefindan runs to Mellondu instead of toward Tharonwë and applies 21st century medical knowledge vis a vi breaking the arrow on both ends then applying pressure to the neck, so that Mellondu does not lose blood. Raefindan effects some of the same power he exhibited in overthrowing Tharonwë's will by miraculously healing both Mellondu and Erebemlin, or even raising them from the dead. Jorje sees what's about to happen and tackles Tharonwë before he can get the first arrow off and it flies awry but mortally wounds Leafa who with her dying breath sings that one song's final verse to Ædegard: "It will not be long love till our wedding day". Raefindan sees "in his spirit" (being who and what he is) realizes what's about to happen and interferes somehow. These are the options I can think of. Others? What do you think? Erebemlin's fate is not certain. Last edited by littlemanpoet; 06-03-2008 at 07:09 PM.

06-03-2008, 08:02 PM	#4
alaklondewen Song of Seregon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Following the road less traveled Posts: 1,193	What would Mithrellas do in this situation? Would she or could she rush to the blacksmith and Erebemlin to provide some sort of Elvish care, prayer, or healing? If Erebemlin survives, I see him losing his speech, which would provide some interesting and challenging writing. __________________ At last I understand why we have waited! This is the ending. Now not day only shall be beloved, but night too shall be beautiful and blessed and all its fear pass away!

06-14-2008, 07:25 AM	#6
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Characters and themes that have yet to be worked in: Note: everything below is suggestion, not certainty. Aeron and Gwyllion are there to aid them, being ghosts, and this has been their destiny from the get-go. Raefindan brings rain into the spirit realm where Amroth and Nimrodel hold their drama Mithrellas - osanwë? Should she be Nimrodel's aid the way Erebemlin is for Amroth? Ædegard - he's here for Mellondu - but what can he do? Leafa - wow, I really don't know what to do with her past singing. Jorje - I'm kind of lost here too. Taitheneb returns - this is alak's task Indil/Angela - I'd almost forgotten about her! What might she do? Meanwhile, Raefindan continues to hold Tharonwë in check. Maybe I need to work on finding ideas for these characters from your posts, Helen. I'm really struggling with everybody but Tharonwë right now, and him soon too. I guess I like to know where things are headed in order to know what's happening now; not so good at just "following my nose". Hmm... not so good at prophetic writing. Any ideas? EDIT: well, that worked in Gwyllion and Aeron after all, and Ædegard and Leafa a little bit; but they need more. I'm still thinking about that Raefindan/rain thing... Last edited by littlemanpoet; 06-14-2008 at 07:57 AM.

05-11-2020, 01:41 PM	#11
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	This Discussion Thread will be moved to Elvenhome. I may be returned to the Game Playing forum upon request from the players. ~*~ Pio __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

06-03-2008, 07:35 PM	#3
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	The post with dreams listed by dreamer is complete. Some day I'm going to have to read this whole story from beginning to end. It's really quite a tale we've wrought here.

06-04-2008, 04:45 AM	#5
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	I have the solution. Please continue to put together your posts as if nothing has happened. Writing those options and then sleeping on it has helped me know what to do. Originally I saw this all from Tharonwe's point of view, and now I see it from Raefindan's. I'm going to keep you in suspense for just a little bit, but I need at least one of you to post before I do again. Let me reiterate: please continue as if nothing in that last post has happened.

06-10-2015, 04:44 AM	#10
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Thanks. This helps. I hope to have some time to look at this story in detail, perhaps through this weekend.