Tol-in-Gaurhoth XLVII: Dueling Wizards Werewolf II

[satansaloser2005]

Well, since Noggie isn't here yet, I may as well put this out there. It's silly, but it amused me.



Both nights, the wolves have killed a gifted and a person whose SN starts with a K. So if Kath doesn't die toNight, she's a wolf!lynch her!

If she does, then ranger be my friend, kthnxbye. (My actual name starts with a K, by the way). Kayla/Sally doesn't particularly want to die, thanks.



EDIT: blast. NOW you show up. Aka x'd with my Legate and our ever-loveable NogMod. Night everybody!

[Nogrod]

Herbert hadn’t heard the man approaching. He screamed with fright when he realised the shadow blocking the narrow doorway into the pillbox.

“Cool down Herbert. It’s me. You are learning your powers my boy. But you need some practise still. Killing your mother was even a better start I could have foreseen but you still need a few lessons as I can see you’re not yet in balance with your powers. You’re now enchanted with the evil and revenge… you should learn the other side as well.”

The boy stared at the shadow his mouth opening wide as he slowly recognized him as his stepfather.

“That last one burnt you, right?” Mr. Hearst said smiling thinly to the boy. Herbert didn’t answer.

“You kind of liked Aggy, didn’t you? I heard about her from your mom. She bullied you but you admired her independence and courage to break those boundaries you never had nerve to break?”

Herbert felt forced to nod slightly in the face of a plain truth he had never thought of earlier in such terms pulled open before his eyes. He had regretted his decision to pick Aggy as soon as her figurine had started to caught fire. It had just been too late to reverse it as he couldn’t move his hand away from the light aymore. And then it had burnt him.

“It was the same thing with your mom. Do you see it? You loved her and hated her but with her your hatred was stronger and deeper. But love and hate stem from goodness and evil and they are distractions in your way to power my lad.”

Herbert wasn’t sure he actually understood Mr. Hearst’s last sentence but he nodded in a way a good boy shows his teacher that his ears are open for more and he’s trying to follow.

“There is no good and no evil in reality. They are only ideas which live only when contemplated by someone. They are ways of looking at the world. Learn that first. It is a simple idea but hard to grasp fully in all its consequences. Most of that which lives thinks they obey something they call “the laws of good and evil”, but for higher spirits they are just bedtimestories you can learn to master – and with that mastery you learn to master the minds of men. The ideas of good and evil can be used to gain power my lad. And power is all there is.” He made a pause to let his words sink and for the boy to wrestle with the meaning of them. “I will tell you more of it when you’re ready. Don’t you worry about that”.

Something was brewing in Herbert’s mind but he wasn’t quite sure what it was. He was baffled by all that Mr. Hearst had said. He seemed to notice his confusion.

“To wield that power you must become impassionate Herbert. Like this…”

Mr. Hearst took a step towards the table and grasped two figurines crushing them in his hand indifferently without even glancing whose figurines they were. He dropped the pieces to the floor and looked Herbert straight to the eye.

“You will be a great wielder of power if you just pass this test. You’ll learn to use it but you need to forget your inner goods and evils. Growing up to be a free spirit means you must first grow out from your inner morality passed on you by people around you. Hatred is a great way to start the path as it cuts you away from any influences but those of your own. But you must grow out of it in the end. Only in an impassioned reality you can wield your power to the fullest as there will then be no restraints.”

He laid his hand on Herbert’s shoulder and pressed it firmly smiling encouragingly.

“Experience that with your figurines now. Try something new. I’ll visit you soon to observe your progress.”

With that Mr. Hearst nodded and turned around. And left.

Herbert was alone in the pillbox once again. He looked back at his figurines and heard them crying at him.

There was this Janus-faced girl Caílean. It was like she was two different girls. One had always held him as her friend and he had liked him a lot. But the other Caílean had always used him to her whims and made fun of him in public. He loved her and hated her but now he tried to be as cool as he could.

He took the figurine and brought it to the fire.

It took fire slowly and started heating his fingers... but it never bursted into sudden flames like the Aggy figurine had done. It was just consumed by the flames.

Herbert held his breath. It did burn his fingers but he bit his lip. He would endure it. He would endure it...


*~*

It was to be a mad day. A day of chaos and intrigue. And the poor villagers tried to keep a cool head in the middle of all that.

Soon after the second day of open town council was opened by the elders Rikae came forwards.

"I couldn't get lynched if I wanted to. Allow me to demonstrate... A vote for Rikae to be lynched!" He looked at the stupefied villagers around her.

"It must be ironic..." Roa whispered to those near her.

"Ironic, but not at all suspicious, eh?", Rikae snapped back. "That's ok. I'm the GW, anyhow - so you really couldn't lynch me. So lynch Legate, he's evil."

From that ensued a lengthy discussion as to whether to believe her or not.

Finally the phantom came forwards with his own revealment of having been told by the GW to hunt for Cailín.

From that a lengthy discussion ensued as to whether to believe him or not.

Or whether to believe something he said but not all the other things. Or how would these relate to Rikae's revealment. Or whether they were both in cahoots in this? Or which would be the best way to proggress whether they were true or not.

"I didn't want to do this, but... I think that the confusion here is not good for the Good team, and since Rikae has seemingly got what she wanted, I may as well let the thick villagers in on it. Rikae's not the Good Wizard. I am." It was Diamond who talked.

That finally ended the lengthy discussions about whom to believe.

But it didn't meant the end of the discussion...


Suddenly the villagers realised the sun was setting fast.

"Well, how do we kill her?" asked Kath pointing at Cailín.

"How about we drown her?" Lalaith suggested.

"But where would you drown her in here? Into Mac's cider or to or your chocolate? Or maybe to my candle wax?" Celuien queried.

"I'd say we do not drown him into the cider as we've got no one to make more of it. A waste of good stuff I say..." Durelin protested.

"I have a natureal distaste for drowning anyone in chocolate. How could you eat any after that?" Brinn said shivering.

"The candle-wax it is then?" Gwath said with a curious smile.

"Yess! I'd love that!" Sally bursted.

"Let's do it then" Lommy said and nodded to Greenie to give her a hand with walking Cailín to Celuien's workshop.

"Now finally you're showing some sense!" the phantom said and went forwards getting the wax-cauldron ready.

The whole village gathered around as Celuien showed how it was done.

Cailín was drowned into the largest cauldron of liquid candle-wax.

Especially Di and Sally looked entusiastically at the procedures. "I have this wax-fetish you know?" Sally asked Di. "You do? Then you're not the only one..."

Suddenly the cauldron fell down and a great bellowing form of half-solidified wax came out from it.

"Yoooowwww---il....lll not get awwwwwaaayyyy....f-f-romm this!" the blob tried to bellow while trying to stretch itself into any possible direction the wax would let it move. Thick hair was sticking through the waxy surface as the thing rolled around in the ground.

"Someone stop it before it gets loose!" Di and Sally cried being the nearest to it.

"You should light the heart!" Celuien yelled over the general rumble.

"Here you go you beast!" Legate ran with a candleheart and sticked it to the waxy monster. "Light it! Light it!"

"With pleasure" said the phantom and brought a match from his pocket.

Cailín caught fire and burnt with a clear flame. She burnt the whole night indeed. But she was a dead werewolf. An ex-lycanthrope who had went to meet her maker. Deceased she was.


*~*

Alive:

+ A Little Green, a fortune-teller - folklorist - herb-grower - unofficial therapist, advisor and midwife, most presumably a witch, the gammer (the eccentric mother of Lommy & Mac)
+ Shastanis Althreduin, astrologer/fortune teller, gaffer (Greenie's husband, father of Lommy & Mac)
+ Isabellkaya, a gammer who loves asparagus and throwing knives (Shasta's sister)

+ Thinlómien, a bird tamer, adult (married to Nilp, Macalaure's sister)
+ Nilpaurion Felagund, a house-bound sandwich-maker, adult (married to Lommy)
+ Eönwë, Rikae's unofficial helper-person, 22 (their son)
+ Kath, tavern owner, 20 (their daughter, Brinn's life partner)
+ Satansaloser 2005, Lommy's assistant, 17 (their daughter)

+ Rikae, a lumberjack, adult (married to Macalaure, Roa's sister)
+ the phantom, sheep herder with Legate, 21 (their adopted son, Di's brother)
+ Diamond 18, dissolute, 11 (phantom's pre-teen littlesister)

+ Lhunardawen, healer's apprentice, 20 (Cailín's daughter, good twin of Durelin)
+ Durelin, poisoner 20 (Lhuna's evil twin, daughter of Cailín)



+ Roa_Aoife, school teacher, adult (mother of Legate, Brinn and Kit, wife of Nogrod, sister of Rikae)
+ Brinniel, Greenie's apprentice, 21 (Legate's sister and Kitanna's twin sister, Kath's life partner)
+ Legate of Amon Lanc, sheep herder with tp, 19 (brother of Brinn & Kit, Sally's boyfriend, Agan's ex-bf)

+ Lalaith, chocolate maker, adult (sister of Nerwen, mother of Aganzir, Volo's daughter)

+ Mormegil, adult (son of Volo, husband of Celuien, father of Gwath and McCaber)
+ Celuien, a candle maker, adult (wife of morm, mother of Gwath and McCaber)
+ Gwathagor, a highwayman, 20 (McCaber's big brother)
+ McCaber, a henchman, 18 (Gwath's little brother, dates Aganzir)


The dead:
Eomer of the Rohirrim, adult (Cailín's husband, Lhuna's and Dury's father); An innocent beheaded by the werewolves on Night1
Nogrod, the judge, adult (Roa's husband, father of Legate, Brinn and Kit); An innocent torn in two by werewolves on Night1
Nerwen, the healer, adult (sister of Lalaith, Volo's daughter); An innocent nailed to the oak-tree on Day1.
Volo, the guy who knows everything about staying alive, the gaffer (Father of Nogrod, morm, Nerwen and Lalaith); The seer mutilated and eyes pulled off on Night2.
Kitanna, a tavern wench 21 (Legate's sister and Brinn's twin sister); An innocent ripped into pieces and thrown into the well on Night2.
Aganzir, the little match girl, 15 (Lalaith's daughter, dates McCaber); A werewolf burnt alive on Day2.
Macalaure, apple farmer, adult (married to Rikae, Lommy's brother); The ranger overpowered by four werewolves in a fight and torn to pieces on Night3.
The Ka, a dog whipper (a fatherless and ageless little child of Lalaith); An innocent impaled to a spear her doll in her hand on Night3.
Cailín, guinea pig breeder, adult (Nilp's sister); A werewolf melted into a candle-wax and burnt on Day3


Night4 has begun.

You know what to do and what to do not.

[Nogrod]

“You listen good now. It will be a complicated story but in the end you’ll see it makes sense if you just listen closely.”

Edelfried took a bite of the apple her aunt had handed her and nodded.

“This world was created a long time ago. A long time before our memory serves us. In the beginning there was the Ainulindalë but even before that there was Ilúvatar, or Eru as the old myths name the being. And it had made the Ainur, the holy ones who formed the Ainulindalë, their song of creation. But there was evil already present there. And what’s even more important, there was the void already in existence and into which this song entered into.

The evil twisted the song and therefore the creation went wrong. For centuries and millennia the good forces of this world fought the evil forces. The ages came and passed over; the evil prevailed at times but the good had their victories too. But then for some reason these mythical forces retreated from this world. Some say they had had enough with those ever recurring battles of good and evil while others say they just lost their interest in this world, some others hold that the battle moved on to other realities, other universes, other aspects of being, to other possible worlds than this one we live in.”

“I’ve heard some of those stories before… I think you have told me some… and uncle Vernon as well… but, what have they got to do with my nightmares of those people suffering so that my heart feels like breaking and I shiver... and my stomach turns upsidedown?”

“Be patient Edelfried. What is important is that the great powers of good and evil are gone. Forever it seems.

And do not forget that the void is and stays. It was there with Ilúvatar, and some say even before Ilúvatar. Anyhow, it is this void – the primal being – that draws people to it these ages when Good and Evil are gone. The time of men is a time of the void.”

Edelfried looked at her aunt totally confused. “But you promised to clarify things! I mean… I thought I was moved because of the good and that I feared the evil. That was why I came to you aunt Clennan!”

Aunt Clennan looked at the little girl with a great sadness in her eyes and stroked her hair once again and then leaving her hand on her shoulder.

“Oh no, my child. No no. You were not brought here because of the good. The good is no more. Neither is the evil. But you came here because of the passion, the compassion, love. And that is the opposite of loneliness, coldness and apathy. These are the powers that now rule the world, the world of men.”

Edelfried felt herself totally at lost.

“What is it you are talking about aunt Clennan?”

“I’m talking of the reason why you will have nightmares the coming night as well. But we’ll do what we can… I told you this wasn’t going to be easy. I'll tell you some tales of the Ainulindalë and of the valar, of the firstborn and the birth of men... of the different ages now gone and the destiny they forged us... Calm down and listen. We still have time today.”


*~*


The werewolves gathered in the centre of the quiet village spotting a house they had planned.

“It must be right this time. After her there will be no little girls in the village…” The biggest one whispered to its companions.

“In we go then?” the other one said.

The biggest one nodded.

The wolves crept silently into the house and upstairs. Finally they came to a door and pushed it open in silence.

“There she is… I’ll pick her” The werewolf sneaked silently beside the bed and with one incredibly fast move wrapped her into her sheets shutting her mouth at the same time. The girl struggled but the werewolf had no problem pulling her tight to it’s chest keeping her from kicking and biting, which she surely tried.

The shadowy creatures left the building with their prey as quietly as they had entered. They stopped back at the well by the oak-tree.

“Now what?” asked one of them. “I’m not particularly enthusiastic with this business on little girls. Give me warriors to butcher… like that Macalaure…”

“Shut up!” Hissed the biggest one. “This I no mere girlie. This is the most dangerous enemy we have in this village… You’ll see it soon enough... Throw her down!”

Diamond fell to the ground and her sheets loosened letting her free.

“You vile creatures! You will pay for this!” Diamond yelled as she struggled herself free. “My dad would have never allowed you to…”

“Yeah, your dad…, remember what we did to him? Now it’s your turn!” With that the biggest one caught the little girl into his arms and picked her eyes from their sockets. The girl was howling from pain.

“Not too bad for a beginner, uh?” one wolf jested.

“Sad we couldn’t train her to be one of us…” another one grinned.

The biggest one looked at the others with fiery eyes for distracting it’s scene. Finally it continued turning towards the still screaming and kicking little girl. “How many times we need to kill you seers? Let the GW know that we will do this as many times we need to!”

With that the biggest wolf threw the screaming and shaking Di to the other werewolves. “Tie her and throw her into the well or whatever…”

They slit her throat open and threw the trembling and now wailing body into the well.

Before they left, the biggest one laid Diamond’s pearly eyes to the brim of the well for a little show-off.

*~*

Alive:

+ A Little Green, a fortune-teller - folklorist - herb-grower - unofficial therapist, advisor and midwife, most presumably a witch, the gammer (the eccentric mother of Lommy & Mac)
+ Shastanis Althreduin, astrologer/fortune teller, gaffer (Greenie's husband, father of Lommy & Mac)
+ Isabellkaya, a gammer who loves asparagus and throwing knives (Shasta's sister)

+ Thinlómien, a bird tamer, adult (married to Nilp, Macalaure's sister)
+ Nilpaurion Felagund, a house-bound sandwich-maker, adult (married to Lommy)
+ Eönwë, Rikae's unofficial helper-person, 22 (their son)
+ Kath, tavern owner, 20 (their daughter, Brinn's life partner)
+ Satansaloser 2005, Lommy's assistant, 17 (their daughter)

+ Rikae, a lumberjack, adult (married to Macalaure, Roa's sister)
+ the phantom, sheep herder with Legate, 21 (their adopted son, Di's brother)

+ Lhunardawen, healer's apprentice, 20 (Cailín's daughter, good twin of Durelin)
+ Durelin, poisoner 20 (Lhuna's evil twin, daughter of Cailín)


+ Roa_Aoife, school teacher, adult (mother of Legate, Brinn and Kit, wife of Nogrod, sister of Rikae)
+ Brinniel, Greenie's apprentice, 21 (Legate's sister and Kitanna's twin sister, Kath's life partner)
+ Legate of Amon Lanc, sheep herder with tp, 19 (brother of Brinn & Kit, Sally's boyfriend, Agan's ex-bf)

+ Lalaith, chocolate maker, adult (sister of Nerwen, mother of Aganzir, Volo's daughter)

+ Mormegil, adult (son of Volo, husband of Celuien, father of Gwath and McCaber)
+ Celuien, a candle maker, adult (wife of morm, mother of Gwath and McCaber)
+ Gwathagor, a highwayman, 20 (McCaber's big brother)
+ McCaber, a henchman, 18 (Gwath's little brother, dates Aganzir)


The dead:
Eomer of the Rohirrim, adult (Cailín's husband, Lhuna's and Dury's father); An innocent beheaded by the werewolves on Night1
Nogrod, the judge, adult (Roa's husband, father of Legate, Brinn and Kit); An innocent torn in two by werewolves on Night1
Nerwen, the healer, adult (sister of Lalaith, Volo's daughter); An innocent nailed to the oak-tree on Day1.
Volo, the guy who knows everything about staying alive, the gaffer (Father of Nogrod, morm, Nerwen and Lalaith); The seer mutilated and eyes pulled off on Night2.
Kitanna, a tavern wench 21 (Legate's sister and Brinn's twin sister); An innocent ripped into pieces and thrown into the well on Night2.
Aganzir, the little match girl, 15 (Lalaith's daughter, dates McCaber); A werewolf burnt alive on Day2.
Macalaure, apple farmer, adult (married to Rikae, Lommy's brother); The ranger overpowered by four werewolves in a fight and torn to pieces on Night3.
The Ka, a dog whipper (a fatherless and ageless little child of Lalaith); An innocent impaled to a spear her doll in her hand on Night3.
Cailín, guinea pig breeder, adult (Nilp's sister); A werewolf melted into a candle-wax and burnt on Day3.
Diamond 18, dissolute, 11 (phantom's pre-teen littlesister); The seer eyes picked out (once again, what a bore...), throat slit and thrown into the well on Night4.


Day4 begins.

Let the words do the deeds.

[Gwathagor]

++Rikae

[satansaloser2005]

What....the....?



EDIT: Crap. Accidentally submitted. Meh, I'll just do another post. By the by, the "What the" was for Di's seership.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Now I'm even more confused that yesterday about what this means for Rikae. Until Diamond's death, I was sure after my reading that Rikae was the EW, but.... I don't know now.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Also, only one wolf kill tonight.... That makes me think that the EW didn't replace Cailin last night, but the plot alludes to a new wolf, so....

[Thinlómien]

Wow... we have clever baddies. But a clever ranger as well, it seems. Or then something else. I'm quite baffled.


edit: xed with Shasta

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Now I'm even more confused that yesterday about what this means for Rikae. Until Diamond's death, I was sure after my reading that Rikae was the EW, but.... I don't know now.

*jaw still on floor*

Wow. Random turn of events much?

On the plus side, a few items:
1. I'm not dead! (yes, I'm slightly selfish. Deal with it)
2. Di was told to lie by the real GW (or at least I assume)
3. This means I definitely trust Phantom now.
4. Our GW is still in hiding.
5. We can all agree that Rikae is evil now, yes? Yes. Although, EW? I don't think so. I'll have to think about it more.

[satansaloser2005]

By the way, if someone was saved by the ranger, wouldn't it mention so in the narration? Not necessarily the person's name (that would be silly) but that someone had been saved? Bah. My head's spinning enough as it is.


P.S. If anyone's interested, I'll have votes up from yesterday in a bit. I totally forgot about them earlier though, so it'll be a bit.

[Brinniel]

I knew it. I didn't want to say anything yesterDay to give anything away to the wolves, but as Izzy said...it all seemed too clean. There was no way they could all be lying about claimed roles...so I figured one of the good guys must be lying too. Towards the end, I had a feeling Di might not actually be the GW but the seer instructed (or at her own will) covering for the GW. I was hoping the wolves wouldn't see it this way, but I guess I was wrong...

[Brinniel]

There there was no indication of a protection in the narration, I think it's more likely either a gifted or wolf was scryed. One kill= three wolves.

[Thinlómien]

Sally, you're probably right about the ranger. So it means we only have three wolves. Great.

Originally Posted by sally

2. Di was told to lie by the real GW (or at least I assume)

Or then she just improvised. Which is a side issue.


edit: xed with 2xBrinn

[Brinniel]

One other thing:

Before we all decide Rikae is evil (which she probably was yesterDay), there's a chance she was scryed by the GW last Night...which means she could be an ordo now.

[the phantom]

Erm... Gwath... Why did you vote for Rikae?

Without hearing anything from anyone?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Also, only one wolf kill tonight.... That makes me think that the EW didn't replace Cailin last night, but the plot alludes to a new wolf, so....

That's an interesing observation, too. Yes, what you said then, it may be so that it's the Ranger's work - well, what else could that be? But the point is, why not mention it in the narration?

The trick pulled by the good guys is also an interesting thing - of course, it's the loss of the Seer, but then... it helped a lot yesterDay, and depending on the tactics needed, the GW may be still around for longer time (that is, if she was not scried - instead of a wolf kill, for example).

Other than that... I am here more like to look at what happened and so that I don't have to catch up on too much. But it's late here and I am probably not going to participate here in any intellectually demanding debates here. Tomorrow. I don't know yet what plans do we have for toDay, in contrary to our overeager Gwathy who voted before the blood on the well even dried. What if somebody has something to say to this aspect, Gwath. If Rikae is for example the EW, there'll be no point voting her.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I don't know that the GW would have wasted a scry on a blatantly-evil Rikae when she had a ranger to replace, Brinn....

[the phantom]

By the way folks, what happened yesterday was not planned.

I actually thought Di was an Ordo who simply knew I was telling the truth and thus "revealed" to help me out.

Yeah... turns out she was the Seer. She was worried that she had gotten a little too enthusiastic in her support of me, and thus was a goner anyway, and so she just revealed so at least we'd get Cailin lynched. Plus she figured if the WWs killed her the next night she'd still get to dream (which she did) and the GW could simply make a new Seer on Night 5.

So anyway, now you know.

[the phantom]

A few quick things.

1) Don't vote yet. I have special lynching instructions that will be given to you later on today.

2) Completely ignore anything Rikae says.

3) Make a list of every villager and give your thoughts on them. The GW wishes to see everyone express opinions on everyone else.

That's all for now. I have to leave for a while but I'll be back with some more later tonight.

[the phantom]

Don't speculate as to why there was only one kill.

And don't believe Rikae if she decides to tell you.

I will tell you myself- but later on today. There will be some good news and some bad news.

But don't worry about that now. For now, just give your opinions on everyone.

(except Rikae and I, that is)

Okay- really going now. Later.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Legate

I am not saying that, my possible-future-mother-in-law... as you see I use conditional. But this is a joyful moment. And now stop that, don't you see we want to have a beautiful time here with your daughter...

I noticed this before I went to bed last night, my dear. We? What's this WE business? You best explain yourself. (And of course I mean this in a wolf sense not a jealous way, because honestly who'd cheat on me?)

[Rikae]

Well, well, well. After I carried you for nine months, and suffered through 59 hours of labor - after all I have done for you these 21 years, you ungrateful child! Not only do you make yourself my enemy - your poor old mother - but you turn my husband and daughter against me as well! I had such beautiful plans for all of us, and you, you have to go and ruin it all....

come out, son, so I can give you a thrashing you'll never forget!!!

EDIT: X'd with everybody since Brinn (including that bad seed...)

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Alright, I'll be honest:

Phantom, you're really irritating me with this "I have important information that you need to know, but I'm not going to tell you right now" business.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Yes, what you said then, it may be so that it's the Ranger's work - well, what else could that be? But the point is, why not mention it in the narration?

Just one kill = three wolves. Three wolves = EW scried a gifted or the GW. I'm not sure if it's worse or better than an extra kill...


edit: xed with everything after phantom's 975
edit2: sorry, it was 977
edit3: really sorry, it was 978 (the craziness )

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Don't speculate as to why there was only one kill.

And don't believe Rikae if she decides to tell you.

I will tell you myself- but later on today. There will be some good news and some bad news.

But don't worry about that now. For now, just give your opinions on everyone.

(except Rikae and I, that is)

Okay- really going now. Later.

Blast you Phantom it's dinner time! Don't go yet. Explain, my dear boy, explain!


Bah. It'll all reveal itself in due course I imagine.

[Roa_Aoife]

Well, Di's role is certainly a surprise. The question is now what we can gather between that and what it means for phantom and Rikae (And consequently Legate).

Here are the possibilities I can think of:

A. Di was the seer and dreamed of Cailin. She didn't know who the GW or the other gifted were. This means that we can't really figure out if she knew phantom's role or Legate's role. She didn't dispute phantom's claim, but that may only mean that she doesn't know the identity of the hunter, and so chose to trust phantom because he also wanted to lynch Cailin.

B. Di was the seer and dreamed of Cailin. She did know the GW but not the Hunter. She would know Rikae was lying, and chose to trust phantom because again, he was for lynching Legate.

C. Di knew both the GW and the hunter's role, and so sided with the hunter, phantom.

I can't understand why the GW would risk revealing her identity to the gifted, since they could be turned to wolves and tell the EW. So I'm more prone to believe A. Which means that we can't just immediately jump to conclusions about either phantom or Rikae's roles. However, this doesn't explain Rikae's behavior very well if she is the GW or perhaps the hunter.

Of course, there is also the fact that there was only one kill last night, which means that the EW did NOT scry another wolf. Either the EW scried the hunter, and the hunter is now an ordo among us, or the the EW scried the GW, in which case we may expect a challenge soon, but not necessarily. Especially if the evil team is down so low.

I need to go through Rikae's posts. I'll be back in... likely a few hours with how much there is to read.

Edit: Cross posted with a lot. Well, I guess Rikae has answered the question for me.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Roa

I can't understand why the GW would risk revealing her identity to the gifted, since they could be turned to wolves and tell the EW. So I'm more prone to believe A. Which means that we can't just immediately jump to conclusions about either phantom or Rikae's roles. However, this doesn't explain Rikae's behavior very well if she is the GW or perhaps the hunter.

See, this is a point I'm unclear on. If the EW scries a gifted, does that immediately turn the gifted into a wolf, or just an ordo? Because if it's the latter, then the GW should have no qualms about revealing herself to her gifted because ordos are still innocent.

[Rikae]

So, you're still in hiding. I guess you'd like to give me another night, and a fourth wolf, then?

Fine with me.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

See, this is a point I'm unclear on. If the EW scries a gifted, does that immediately turn the gifted into a wolf, or just an ordo? Because if it's the latter, then the GW should have no qualms about revealing herself to her gifted because ordos are still innocent.

Just an ordo. But an ordo can be scried into a wolf...


edit: xed with Rikae who pretends to be the EW. Nice.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Edit: Cross posted with a lot. Well, I guess Rikae has answered the question for me.

Tsk tsk - don't you remember? Tp ordered you not to listen to me.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Just an ordo. But an ordo can be scried into a wolf...


edit: xed with Rikae who pretends to be the EW. Nice.

Yes, but that would take two nights, giving the GW a chance to act, correct?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Tsk tsk - don't you remember? Tp ordered you not to listen to me.

Which irritated me; I don't take ultimatums well. *glares at Phantom*

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

edit: xed with Rikae who pretends to be the EW. Nice.

I'm pretending? Well, I guess that makes me a wolf, then. Lynch me! I dare you, sis-in-law!

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Sally

Blast you Phantom it's dinner time! Don't go yet. Explain, my dear boy, explain!

Originally Posted by Shasta

Phantom, you're really irritating me with this "I have important information that you need to know, but I'm not going to tell you right now" business.

Sorry, but I literally have to walk out of the door to my house this second!

Actually, I should already be on my way!

Sorry, but that's all for now. Follow those three rules I gave you.

Good bye.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Phantom

Follow those three rules I gave you.

!!!!!!!

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I noticed this before I went to bed last night, my dear. We? What's this WE business? You best explain yourself. (And of course I mean this in a wolf sense not a jealous way, because honestly who'd cheat on me?)

Hey, I think I do not understand you. The thing you quoted cannot be explained in any other way than that I am speaking of you and me, my dear? That's it. Or sorry, I did not understand the question probably.

[Isabellkya]

I just want to get in a post real quick before I head off to help with dinner.

I think it is blatantly obvious that the EW either scried the GW or a Gifted. There was only one kill last night - which as I see a few people have pointed out, means only three wolves. Though I do recall something else which was mentioned by Nog about there being new instructions to the wolves - I'd have to look it over to check.

I think phantom slipped yesterday, and let it be known that Diamond was not the TRUE GW.. I will even show you where if you don't know.. when I return.

As well... the simplest reason for such things.. can be true. Rikae herself said that she was having fun in saying she was the GW. If she were the EW, what more could/would there need to be, in fake revealing herself as the GW - other than to ferret out a gifted or two, as well as the GW. Even flushing out one is gift enough, but all would've been a jackpot. So it seems to me - that the EW or one of the wolves picked up on Diamond as the seer - and thus decided to kill her for it. As well, they could easily scry Phantom, thus getting rid of two gifteds in one night. It is more logical this way - scrying Phantom doesn't allow him to get his dying kill, killing the seer; well why wouldn't they? So I would say, giving up adding an extra wolf to their pack, seems to have been well worth it to be able to get rid of two gifteds in on night.


I think there were a few other things I wanted to say, but I had a gazillion thoughts I wanted to get out quickly. I shall return later.



X'd since Roa's #986.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

She would know Rikae was lying, and chose to trust phantom because again, he was for lynching Legate.

Hey, you mean against lynching Legate?

[Thinlómien]

Every cell in me urges me not to follow phantom's directions. I'm not always bad at taking orders, but I'm bad at taking orders from haughty people who behave all too self-consciously and annoy me and whom I'm not sure if I can trust. *le sigh* I mean, I think I can trust tp but I'm not sure, this game is looking more and more complicated...

On the other hand, I was planning to do such a summary toDay anyway, just to force myself to think about some people I have so stupidly let fly under my radar. And I can't think of any harm that doing it would bring. So, phantom, know this: when (if?) I do the summary, I'm doing it because I planned to do so, not because you requested it. Period.

I also recommed others not to be as rebellious-spirited as I am. I think it's a very good idea to make everybody make a summary... we must just swallow our pride and let tp boss us around... (I can see how he enjoys the situation...)


edit: xed with everybody who posted after me

[Roa_Aoife]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Yes, but that would take two nights, giving the GW a chance to act, correct?

Act how, exactly, Shasta?

Someone mentioned the Ranger. I suppose it's possible, so then we have four wolves, a clever ranger, and an irritating as sin hunter *glares at phantom*.

If you have directions from the GW, hand 'em over. Stop playing games with us. I notice that that's exactly what Rikae did yesterday. We know that Diamond trusted you, but we don't know that she knew your role. You could very well be the EW and Rikae is your wolf. I wouldn't put that kind of move past either of you. You can say that Di was trying to help you because she knew you, but all we have is your word on that. She may have simply been duped.