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Old 07-19-2008, 06:11 PM   #1
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An amazing job Kitanna, I knew you could do it.

Sorry you had to leave us Nerwen, and sorry we couldn't sacrifice you. To tell you the truth, I didn't think we deserved to have a new wolf, because Nerwen informed us she had things come up and we had the sinister plan of lynching her that day. I wasn't intending on getting tied in too closely, but the more and more Elf-warrior kept begging to get lynched ( ) the harder I tried to get all of you after Nerwen.

Mith and I were laughing because of all the talk about our strategy, we really didn't have anything "pre-planned." (The only thing being trying to sacrifice Nerwen). Everything else we just kind of went with, an "in the moment" sort of thing. I don't know if I told Kitanna, but my other partners knew I was going to act as an ordinary innocent and jump on anything I thought was suspicious (whether they were my teammates or not). And I think it was Mith's reminder that we didn't "know" anything that helped me the most.

I guess I could tell everyone what I sent Shasta after you all lynched him ( :evil laugh: ). This is the play-by-play of what all went through my head in about 3 minutes:
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Since I caused you a maddening headache and such frustration you will be first to hear my reasons for the fake reveal.

The best case scenario is we lynch an innocent kill you during the night and it's 5-2. So, it still takes 2 more days for a win. The problem I was considered extremely innocent and yet I was still alive, so I didn't know if I could keep the charade up for 2 more days. That was the best case.

So, I thought you might not have used your protection yet, and if we go after you during the night, you stop the kill, it's 6-2 and we have 2 known innocents. That wasn't good. Or we could risk it and kill the hunter hoping we go into the next day 5-2. It still takes 2 more days to win.

That's when I thought you had to go today, I wasn't going to risk you preventing another kill at night, so you had to go today. I back tracked a bit and considered killing an innocent, setting you up tomorrow, but in order for that to work I would probably have had to claim to be the ranger tomorrow. Who would believe me then when I was around at the deadline and I let you get away while we lynch an innocent? I did some final number crunching and if I was successful after all of this it would be 4-1 and it would still take 2 days to win. And plus you wouldn't be there at night to stop a kill. The hunter might be a problem but he's not during the day if his suspicions are wrong.

Thus the conclusion I reached was with already the suspicion around you the last couple days, and no one suspecting me, they would believe me if I just came out right there and claimed to be the ranger. Because why would a wolf Boro do such a thing right?

And I'm telling you this because I honestly believe it, you did great for your first time as gifted, truly an admirable ranger. (My 2 times as a Ranger I've had no successful protections and I believe I've protected more wolves than innocents). Not only that but you even left a clue for everyone if you died! I swear after you said that I thought I was dead. I thought you just outplayed me and my evil plan was going to blow right up in my face. You just had the unfortunate circumstance of being in a village that likes to overthink everything.

So there you have my reasoning before anyone else. When all is said and done they will realize you had a wonderful performance, and I did what I did because I thought we had to get rid of you during the day, to stop you from stopping us at night.
So, Shasta, sorry you got caught up in an evil bluff, but as I said in the game...that was just the way it had to be. Also, something else I took into consideration was I had just made a defense of monstorous proportions for Nogrod (and yes, Nogrod, I was hoping to use that to my advantage), I had added on to Aganzir's suspicion of Kit, and a big reason I did it was because the last wolf was Kit.
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Old 07-19-2008, 09:19 PM   #2
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Danke, for all who thought I played well. I thought I'd have a fight ahead of me today. I figured I'd be the first to vote and I'd have to make a serious case against either Rikae or Aganzir. But when I woke up this morning and logged on all I had to do was pick randomly.

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Old 07-19-2008, 09:23 PM   #3
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I almost mentioned the idea that Nerwen had actually informed her fellows ahead of time that she was going to have to drop out. But I didn't want to get into the fairness of everything...

I also almost dreamt of Boro my first Night, to sorta keep up a one-time tradition. *sigh*

My plan wasn't to dream of just big names or whoever the village was suspicious of, or eve of people I was suspicious of either. I wanted to dream of people I didn't think I could figure out, and who the village probably wouldn't figure out for a while...as in, people who'd survive. On that at least I'd say I did fairly well. Keeping myself alive...not so good.

Of course my worst moment was completely missing an entire 48 hour period!! Egh.....

I also didn't do so well with leaving clues. I didn't really try to, because I didn't find it worth blowing any cover by throwing around random "this person is innocent...I just feel it" statements to point to my dreams. Interestingly, only Boro read me properly, noticing statements about Form and Rikae.

I'm so glad you were innocent, Nog, because I so felt you had to be. It seems like we think along the same lines at points only when we are both innocent. We both should have kept after Kitanna.

Congrats to the wolves! Boro, that was insane. Mith, you were so cool. Kitanna...that was painful to watch.

Finally...one big SORRY to Shasta. You really were starting to remind me a bit of myself and a bit of TGWBS as wolves... And I'm afraid I would have lynched you after Boro's stunt, too. We've never seen anything like that. Well...the game when there ended up three people claiming to be seers (CoD as a wolf and Gil as an ordo both claimed to be the seer after the real seer revealed...) was madness...
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Old 07-19-2008, 09:29 PM   #4
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I almost mentioned the idea that Nerwen had actually informed her fellows ahead of time that she was going to have to drop out.
Just to clarify this: I didn't know until after Day 2. It was just a possibility.
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Old 07-19-2008, 09:32 PM   #5
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Oh, I dreamt of Form Night 1 because I don't recall ever playing with him (apologies if I have...just ask Aganzir, my memory sucks). Besides thinking they would survive a while, I dreamt of Rikae because she's Rikae and especially with our WW history I didn't think I'd ever figure her out. I dreamt of Aganzir after Nilp was revealed innocent, also because I didn't think I'd ever figure her out.

Not that I think I can figure anyone out. Nooo way.

Edit: Nerwen - That was part of why I didn't mention it, because I didn't want to accuse anyone of anything. Really don't mean to, especially because I wouldn't have any problem with it even if it was all planned ahead really.

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Old 07-19-2008, 10:14 PM   #6
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Oh yes.

I protected Kath because I expected the wolves to continue the pattern of attempting to kill someone who would leave no trace. And because she hadn't been able to participate yet.

Sally was a random draw as I had no clue that day.

Eomer because I imagined he was Hunting me that day, and if I imagined it, so might the wolves, and his ability would go to waste.

Rikae because she was the person who seemed the most innocent to me at the time. Also because she was loud and drawing attention.

Then I DIED.
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Old 07-19-2008, 10:26 PM   #7
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time. Also because she was loud and drawing attention.

Then I DIED.
Yes... sorry about my part in that. I was 100% ready to believe you when I first reading your coming out post--despite your vote for me the day previous--but then Boromir came out, and I was in a quandary. I just couldn't see Boromir faking it unless he was in some sort of trouble as a wolf--and as he said, he was as clean-looking as a baby.

I will not make that mistake again, ever. Sorry, Boro.

I'm also quite pleasantly surprised to see that both Nogrod and Aganzir were innocents, since this accords, despite misgivings, with my general instincts. I'm vaguely disappointed Rikae wasn't a wolf, though I must say that Kitanna fully deserved to win, given that she barely registered on my radar at all during the game, and never as a guilty party.

Very sorry, Mith to have stolen the last-minute save from you there, but I really can't say I'm sorry to have survived another day... though there WAS a little part of me that wanted sweet, sweet vindication of Proven Innocent status--notwithstanding that it would set the village back farther and lead to the rest of your deaths.

And... that's all the random after-game comments I have at the moment. A failure to comment personally is in no way intended as a personal insult... just so the rest of you know.

Whoever you are...
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Old 07-20-2008, 02:09 AM   #8
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Thanks to everyone for participating in my game. It's the first one I've modded (though certainly not the last), and I really enjoyed watching everything play out from a new perspective. And I'm simply quite surprised how long it lasted...I don't think many games last eight Days.

I have to say the hardest part was having to decide whether to bring in a new wolf or not when Nerwen dropped out...I'm such an indecisive person, so it really did help to get people's opinions on the matter. And I admit even after I made the decision, I wavered on whether I made the right choice, worrying that I gave the wolves too much an advantage. But as I watched the Days and Nights play out, I think in the end the game was fairly balanced...or at least I hope so. I probably should've put four wolves into the game in the first place...I seriously considered it. Previous games with approx. 20 players have had both 3 and 4 wolves, so I figured it could work either way. And who knows...perhaps the wolves still could've won even if I didn't add a fourth wolf.

To the wolves-

Mithalwen: Though you got lynched, it was only really due to an unlucky roll of a die (sorry about that). I thought you played very well and didn't seem terribly wolfish to me at all. Btw, you were spot on with Durelin (I recall it was your PM that mentioned the possibility of her being the seer?)

Nerwen: I'm really sorry you had to leave, but as always, RL happens. You did a great job playing the loud wolf who's "too obvious to actually be a wolf." Considering that it was mostly Boromir who was gunning for you on Day 2 (for reasons I didn't discover until later), who knows how much longer you could've survived if you didn't have to drop out. Maybe only a couple Days...or perhaps much longer..

Boromir: What a clever wolf you are. I think you went after all your teammates at one time or another (a strategy I've been tempted to play), and it really helped you slip under the radar. Had you not revealed as the ranger, I think there was a chance you could've survived until the ends. Like the others, I was confused as to why you did it...until I thought it through and understood. It was a smart sacrifice that ultimately helped you win...having Shasta still around could've been a dangerous obstacle.

Kitanna: As I think I already mentioned to you, if I had put in four wolves to begin with, I'm quite sure you would've been the fourth anyway. I have to say, you are a sneaky wolf and played brilliantly. I found it rather amusing that several people found you more suspicious before you turned, and later disregarded you as innocent. Only a truly great wolf can pull that off.

And Sally the spammer: Silly wolves for killing you off...I couldn't see what was so innocent about you. You caused a bit of trouble for the village. Especially when you helped keep Mith from the noose by voting Nilp on Day 3. I must ask...did you know she was a wolf?

To the Gifteds-

Durelin: I was sorry to see you killed so early...especially when I noticed that two of your dreams were among the final three. And even though you never dreamt of Mith, I think your death and vote for her was what helped get her lynched the next Day.

Shasta: Oh what a mean thing Boromir did to you. But hey...it's all part of the game, and he had good reasons behind it. It's unfortunate no one believed you, I felt bad as they all voted for you. But don't let that get you down. You did an excellent job as the ranger and I'm glad I picked you. Not only did you manage to save Kath on Night 2, but you never actually protected a wolf...which is pretty well done, if I may say so.

Eomer: You were right on the money in the beginning with Mithalwen. You were so right, that I was a bit surprised when you changed your mind about her (before you sent the hunt, I thought you were bluffing). And then you revealed...which wasn't such a bad thing, since it left quite an obstacle for the wolves. After all, if they didn't fear you, they would've killed you earlier on.

And to the ordos...you all certainly kept me entertained. While some of you were quite a ways off on some suspicions, there were others who completely accurate with your suspicions.

Anyway, there's so much more I'd like to say but it's getting late and I have a headache, so I think I'll stop for now. Again, well played to everyone. I will be sending reps to all the players as soon as I get the chance.
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Old 07-20-2008, 03:56 AM   #9
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Great game everyone, I really enjoyed myself.

Wolf team: well done on winning! The sweet, sweet glory is yours. Of course, special praise to Kitanna, who has one-upped me again. I tell you, that's not the first time she's consigned me to defeat, and whenever I do get to win she's always there to share in the victory.

Shasta... That was quite something. Boromir totally fooled me. I'm still not sure it was totally beneficial to the wolves to do that, but oh well. It worked out for them in the end.

Special praise to Brinniel for the great concept and the highly amusing narrations.
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