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Pilgrim Soul
Join Date: May 2004
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If you look at the beginning of "The Ride of the Rohirrim" you will see that Elfhelm the Marshall likes his puns. I always wonder if Elfhelm was cursing in Westron or whether Merry had piclked up enough Rohirric in a short time (not impossible given it's relationship to Hobbitish) to understand "wretched" tree roots. Even the priggish and serious Aragorn makes a slight joke about the Master of the Houses of healing knowing all the names of herbs but not actually having any.
Of a similar nature is Elrond's comment about Sam not being separable from Frodo even when not invited to a secret council. A dry humour but one no less.
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Animated Skeleton
Join Date: Jun 2008
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There is plenty of humor to be found in The Lord of the Rings! Humor comes in many different forms. In LotR we get direct "slapstick" humor, sarcasm, dry humor, etc. All are funny!
I can recall lines from all the races in Middle-earth that were funny. Tolkien does not leave humor out of any race in M-e...again, it depends what you find funny, mind you, but it's all humor. I'll give some examples used by each race- For Hobbits, there are obvious answers, for we know they were very humorous folk. One example that comes to my mind is when Pippin made a joke about Frodo getting a little flabby before they set out from Bag End. For Men, we have the humor of Aragorn and of Boromir. Aragorn uses humor in Bree - "a fat innkeeper...", leaving Bree "foul and fair", in Minas Tirith when he makes fun of Ioreth and the "herb master", etc. Boromir uses sarcasm on more than one occasion. During The Great River, I believe it is, he asks Aragorn what they will do after a certain point - "Leap down the falls?" For Elves, Legolas talks to Gandalf about chasing the sun while on Caradhras. "I go to find the sun!" I'm sure there are more instances. Gandalf uses humor all the time. Angry humor, you might call it. As has been mentioned "knock your head against these walls, Peregrin Took!", as well as plenty of humor about Hobbits throughout the Quest, chiming in with Aragorn making fun of Ioreth in Minas Tirith, etc. Unforuntely for Dwarves, I can't think of a specific time of humor, besides when, and this part always cracks me up, after the victory at Helm's Deep the Company passes through the Huorns and Legolas turns back and sees eyes and starts galloping towards them in curiosity. Gimli, who is helpless behind Legolas on the horse cries out in freight, "I wish to see no eyes!" Gets me every time!Anyway, you get the point! There is a lot of humor in The Lord of the Rings. With such an amazing and intense story, Tolkien knew just the right places to put humor in.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jun 2006
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I always thought it was with a touch of humor, when Eomer and Gimli were comparing Galadriel and Arwen. Something about an axe, a swordm decapitation, and the fairest lady in ME. Don't have my book with me though. I'll have this edited when I get home.
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Flame Imperishable
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Well, we know Gandalf had humour. But was it because of his body, or was it his Maia part?
Did the Ainur have a sense of humour?
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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The Elves, actually, make the impression of making fun mostly of other races. Just check all the Elf-jokes and see (tra-la-ley Elves in Rivendell making fun of Bilbo and Dwarves, Legolas on Caradhras making fun of "strong men", Gildor and his company making fun of the Hobbits. The only different case I can think of is the Wood-Elves in hobbit making fun of sleeping Galion, but then, he was drunk and they were too, and they were all Wood-Elves, so not of the "high" sort). May be so because the other Elves won't be as amused or their reaction won't be so amusing (after long time of practice). Anyway, I don't belive the Elves meant any harm by it, but sometimes, especially from the Dwarves' point of view, it might have been pretty annoying and it might have contributed to the image of Elves as kind of nose-up and maybe in some things not understandable folk in the view of the other races.
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Sage & Onions
Join Date: Aug 2002
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I think there are a few reasons we don't get so much comedy out of the Rohirrim or Gondorians.
First they were in the middle of a war and thus likely less inclined to japes. Also we meet mostly princes, lords and the like, usually in the company of the Great and the Good and in public, where they are trying to be serious and responsible and, as Legate says, using 'higher' or grimmer humour where it occurs. Beregond, Bergil and Ioreth are the few ordinary folk we meet in Gondor. B&B are naturally a bit subdued with the impending attack and meeting a strange hobbit but Beregond gently ribs Pippin about 'Lesser men do the greater deeds' and Bergil was soon 'laughing and talking gaily' with Pip. I definitely believe Ioreth must have enjoyed a good belly-laugh as much as the next lass!
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