Tol-in-Gaurhoth XLIX - At the Source of Darkness

[Durelin]

I still feel Lommy and Shasta are innocent.

I feel that Nogrod and Kath aren't.

I think Greenie might be evil.

I don't know about Brinniel or phantom.

Grah.

[Durelin]

I feel Eonwe is innocent.

I think Nerwen might be evil.

[Durelin]

What do you think of Kath, Nog?

[Eönwë]

"Now that's an eye opener and no mistake"

Good Work Cobbler Assassin

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Durelin

What do you think of Kath, Nog?

The question is: What do you think of Kath, Dury?

[Kath]

Brinn, Nog and Lommy started a very late bandwagon against Fea yesterday. I had wondered where it had come from when I discovered she'd be lynched. They're going on and on about not having a flurry of last minute voting and bandwagons and there they go and do the exact same thing. I don't think they're suspicious for voting for her, she was second on my list, but I think the manner of it most odd.

Ah, and to answer something from Nog yesterDay. Just because I'm not suspecting you doesn't mean anything. With phantom, Fea and Nilp in the game you barely got my attention in terms of automatic suspicion. Now, however, after yesterDay, you've got it. Brinn too actually, more so than Lommy for some reason though I'm not sure why.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Kath

Brinn, Nog and Lommy

And there was Dury. But actually it's not a bandwaggon when only one person votes.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Durelin

What do you think of Kath, Nog?

As I said earlier I do think she might be a cobbler or then she just plays differently - looking at her points there it might be a reasonable assumption added with the scarcity of time and all that.

But this is mutual between us. I tend to suspect her of any possible evil there is whatever the situation... and similarily she may be lost from my view if something more eye-catching comes about but when that is over I tend to turn to back suspecting her. Like she does with me.

Originally Posted by Eönwe

And there was Dury. But actually it's not a bandwaggon when only one person votes.

But you need to look at when and why people make their votes! Dury was indeed voting safe... indeed the "safest" of us all as there had been talk about voting Fea and some people agreeing and she just began it for real. That's a good place for a wolf.

A list of votes may tell you a thing or two but you should also look back at the times of the votes and the reasons given to them at that particular time of discussion to get a fuller picture.

Although I still think Dury's remark on Mith's general innocence makes her more an innocent than a wolf.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

But you need to look at when and why people make their votes! Dury was indeed voting safe... indeed the "safest" of us all as there had been talk about voting Fea and some people agreeing and she just began it for real. That's a good place for a wolf.

You, on the other hand, were in the bandwaggoning position. You turned it from a suspicion into a lynch candidate. After someone gets three votes, people just attach themselves onto that or one of the others with a similar amount of votes.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

You, on the other hand, were in the bandwaggoning position. You turned it from a suspicion into a lynch candidate. After someone gets three votes, people just attach themselves onto that or one of the others with a similar amount of votes.

Worse than that.

I started talking about lynching Fea in the first place and the others sticked to it as they clearly were as confused as I was.

But the wolves (and possibly cobblers) at that time... They must have thought of my "case-making" as a heaven sent gift...

So I'd really look at that Fea-waggon with that in mind. I supplied the wood but the ignition was a responsibility of four (Dury, Brinn, Lommy and me).

The sad thing is that at least towards the end the wolves might have thought it better to separate themselves from the lynching crowd and make themselves look good *cough Shasta, cough tp*

And who says Greenie is innocent as she writes seldomly and votes early? That's the safest position...

I'm coming back in a minute with the non-voter-stuff so let it be for now...

[Nogrod]

Those of us who have voted everyDay:
Shasta
Durelin
Brinniel
Nogrod
Greenie

the phantom - was a minute late on Day1.
Lommy - was late on Day2 because of a misunderstanding as we shared the same computer the three of us.


Those not voting everyDay:
Eönwe - voted an hour late on Day1, did not vote on Day3.
Nerwen - did not vote on Day3.
Kath - did not post or vote on Day1, did not voter on Day3.


My conclusions about that:
Eönwe, Nerwen and Kath look more innocent than guilty because of their failures. If we're looking at the wolves they would vote everytime humanely possible.

That means I will not think of any of the three "non-voters" as granted innocents but will have it as my general "working hypothesis". And anyhow. Someone winning a game by consciously not-posting doesn't earn the victory. It will taste shallow in her/his mouth and we others will scorn that kind of victory.


So I believe our wolves are among those who have voted all the time. Criss-crossing a table with whom I have left unnoticed and who have voted everyDay will give me the "search-book" for this Day (eg. tomorrow after work).

Good night!

Do something!

Anything!


EDIT X'd with tp.

[the phantom]

I'm going to leave Kath alone for the time being. I really don't think she's a Wolf. She could be a Cobbler, but then so could just about anyone. Plus we still have our Assassin to help with those.

I came away from Day 2 viewing Nerwen as good, and since she wasn't around yesterday my opinion hasn't changed. I'd like to see what her take is after being removed from us for a bit.

I'm thinking that if Nog is evil he is a Werewolf rather than a Cobbler.

Eonwe and Lommy I think are innocent.

I don't have a solid opinion about Brin, Durelin, Shasta, and Green. I swung back and forth between "certainly guilty" and "definitely innocent" during my last skim-through.