Scarburg Meadhall Discussion Thread

[Groin Redbeard]

I don't think Erbrand would last long in the sack fight, his tall figure will make it difficult for him to find balance. The only hope I can see for him is if he battles Kara or Harreld, the boys would be a toss up.

Nogrod, I took Erbrand out of the quarterstaff fighting and put him in dueling to even things out.

Archery Erbrand, Crabannan, Garmund, Cnebba, Dan, Eodwine,Javan, Thornden
Horse Racing Erbrand, Eodwine, Rowenna, Javan, Saeryn
Racing on foot Erbrand, Garmund, Cnebba, Eodwine, Leof
Stone Throwing Garmund, Cnebba, Harreld, Erbrand
Wrestling Crabannan, Dan, Harreld
Dueling Crabannan, Dan, Eodwine, Erbrand
Quarterstaff-fight Crabannan, Stigend, Dan, Eodwine, Harreld, Thornden
Javelin Throwing Erbrand, Crabannan, Stigend, Dan, Harreld, Thornden
Riddles Dan, Eodwine, Javan
Sack-fight Harreld, Erbrand, Dan, Javan, Cnebba, Garmund, Stigend,
Dagger-throwing Rowenna, Eodwine, Harreld, Saeryn
Task-path Rowenna, Eodwine, Harreld, Dan, Javan
Rope-tie race Eodwine, Rowenna, Erbrand, Stigend, Garstan, Cnebba, Garmund, Javan, Saeryn, Kara, Ginna, Dan, Erbrand

[Nogrod]

Update-stuff: Groin: check lmp's #775 as he merged the last games into the task-path...


I just went back to see the three soldiers (NPC's) I wrote with Stigend and at least the two young ones should take part in the "fighting games". They would love to. I also remember there being soldiers in the hunting party. Wouldn't they want to join as well?

Or do we just ignore them with the games?

I'd like to hear views on it.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

Nogrod, I took Erbrand out of the quarterstaff fighting and put him in dueling to even things out.

I wouldn't like to see people pulling out to even things out... Merely I'd like to see more people joining. And we might use those NPC's as well.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I approve of using NPCs. That's why they exist, after all...

[Kath]

Oh my word Groin! You can't make Kara turn someone down! Ooh I'll go and have a think about this. I'll try and get a post up later tonight.

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

I approve of using NPCs. That's why they exist, after all...

Exactly, name the games that you want them in and I'll list them.

Originally Posted by Kath

Oh my word Groin! You can't make Kara turn someone down! Ooh I'll go and have a think about this. I'll try and get a post up later tonight.

I was hoping you would see it like that. Do whatever you want with the situation, if Kara has her heart set on doing it with someone else that's perfectely fine (that would make for some nice dialog later on).

[Nogrod]

Groin, would you add Aethelstan and Osmund to wrestling, dueling, quarterstaff-fight and javelin throwing?

Anyone writing them in can check what they have been told of before from my posts #171 & #172 - I think they are the only explicit writings of their characters this far. Basically they are two about twenty-something young soldiers who wish to excell in fights and show their qualities. They were even wrestling together for fun when they had a pause together (the elder men were doing work farther away).

Then there would be Wilcred, this a bit older and quieter soldier. He would probably like to pass the games (he would probably be pretty good in duelling and that stuff but he wouldn't feel the need to make a showcase of it, I think). But he could be persuaded to take part in some of the "less serious" games I guess, at least if we need someone to even the numbers or so... like in dagger or stone throwing, three-legged race or anything like that. And if Eodwine insists he might take part in the fighting games as well. But that I think is up to you lmp - I mean how Eodwine acts when he sees his veteran soldier is not intending to participate.

All this counting on that what I wrote about him on those posts #171-2 is what we have of him. If someone has other ideas do come forwards.

Also we could put Wilcred in the riddle-game and I could write his parts when needed (as I think it will be at least partially a "scene-writing" thing) for Stigend surely is no riddle-master... (I was kind of hoping Lommy would put Modtryth into it...) I'm no riddle-master myself but that could fit well... you need one participant who's not that bright but still partakes.


Then Groin, how about these guys you had in the hunting party; Lithor (who seems to be a character already but I don't find him from the list of participants), Balvir, Matrim?

[Groin Redbeard]

All done, Nogrod. I tried put Balvir and Matrim into sports that would fit them, but I think Lithor will stay out and organize the games for the most part, he'll find it amusing watching everyone els.

Archery Erbrand, Crabannan, Garmund, Cnebba, Dan, Eodwine,Javan, Thornden, Balvir, Matrim
Horse Racing Erbrand, Eodwine, Rowenna, Javan, Saeryn
Racing on foot Erbrand, Garmund, Cnebba, Eodwine, Leof, Matrim
Stone Throwing Garmund, Cnebba, Harreld, Erbrand, Balvir, Matrim
Wrestling Crabannan, Dan, Harreld, Aethelstan, Osmund
Dueling Crabannan, Dan, Eodwine, Erbrand, Aethelstan, Osmund
Quarterstaff-fight Crabannan, Stigend, Dan, Eodwine, Harreld, Thornden, Aethelstan, Osmund
Javelin Throwing Erbrand, Crabannan, Stigend, Dan, Harreld, Thornden, Aethelstan, Osmund
Riddles Dan, Eodwine, Javan
Sack-fight Harreld, Erbrand, Dan, Javan, Cnebba, Garmund, Stigend,
Dagger-throwing Rowenna, Eodwine, Harreld, Saeryn
Task-path Rowenna, Eodwine, Harreld, Dan, Javan
Rope-tie race Eodwine, Rowenna, Erbrand, Stigend, Garstan, Cnebba, Garmund, Javan, Saeryn, Kara, Ginna, Dan, Erbrand

[Folwren]

Forgive me, but it's virtually impossible for horses to be ready to race in 15 minutes. Let them race in an hour, at least!

EDIT: Never mind about the hour. However, they can not run in 15 mintues. It will take that long simply to get them ready, much less to warm them up. A horse sprinted without warming could end with injuries that may not heal properly. Sorry about the fine detail and the appearance of me being nit picky. I am actually being nit picky, but you can not imagine how my brain has been picked all afternoon... And I know too much about horses.

And Elempi, for Saeryn's sake, I am furious, and I'm really disliking Rowenna right now.

[Firefoot]

Not to mention that everyone's going to be trying to use the same space etc.... Leof's going to wish he'd have had a bit more warning.

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Forgive me, but it's virtually impossible for horses to be ready to race in 15 minutes. Let them race in an hour, at least!

What, these Rohirric people cannot saddle their horse in less than 15 minutes, I can saddle my horse faster than that? What a bunch of slowpokes! Just poking fun at you Folwren, an hour it is.

And no Erbrand will not win the race, perhaps another day.

[Thinlómien]

Goodness, you're all making me laugh or at least smile. Too funny. And I love the enthusiasm around here... and I'm so amused by the cat fight, you know... I'd like to dislike Rowenna for being so manipulative but she just amuses me too much.

Since we seem to be short of hosts, I could do the stone throwing, (but no spectacles are to be expected ).

Originally Posted by Nog

(I was kind of hoping Lommy would put Modtryth into it...)

Nah, it's too deep in her not to put herself forwards like that and I can't see her really enjoying any kind of competition much, however light-hearted... she will be following the riddle games with enthusiasm, though. (I'd imagine it interests her much more than the sports...)

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

What, these Rohirric people cannot saddle their horse in less than 15 minutes, I can saddle my horse faster than that? What a bunch of slowpokes! Just poking fun at you Folwren, an hour it is.

That is true, if it was saddling alone and these horses were stalled. (ha...if we're talking personal experience here, I have to walk a quarter of a mile to get my horses out of pasture, then I have to bring them back and groom and saddle them...all that takes an hour!)

So, I think it's fine if Lithor says to go get the horses ready and they'll race as soon as all the animals are prepared - how's that? I may have over-reacted a little last night - I was really, really grumpy.

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Folwren

So, I think it's fine if Lithor says to go get the horses ready and they'll race as soon as all the animals are prepared - how's that? I may have over-reacted a little last night - I was really, really grumpy.

No problem Folwren, I'll go edit it (again).

[Folwren]

I'm confused about the status of our stables at this point. I'm writing it with the imagination that we have a place to put the saddles and bridles and other necessities for horses, but the horses themselves are staying in a pen out in the open. If this is an incorrect assumption, I will change my post.

I don't want to decide who wins the horse race, because right now, I've got my feelings way too much wrapped up in Saeryn and want her to win very badly indeed. Who else has preferences? Who knows they're NOT going to win? Whoever wants to win, let me know and I'll start flipping coins or rolling dice. So far, I'm assuming those who want to win are Firefoot (for Leof), Elempi (for Rowenna or Eodwine), and myself (for Saeryn). Gwath and Fea have both expressed their suspicion that their characters won't win. I know Javan won't. What about Erbrand, Groin? And the NPC? What should I do about them?
I'm sorry if I'm being too much bother about this. If I am, tell me so, and I'll shut up and figure it out, somehow. But I want to be fair.

-- Folwren

EDIT: I was going to write a post tonight, but it's taking me too long. This post for Saeryn is too complicated for me right now. I'll write tomorrow morning.

[Firefoot]

The image that I've had as far as stables go is this:

The horses normally stay in a couple of paddocks (I don't know how many - 2 or 3? But every time they're referred to it's been plural...). There's probably some kind of equipment shed or lean to or something or other to keep saddles etc dry and out of the elements. I also described a couple of "stalls" (maybe two of them) for short-term holding of horses that Leof knows in advance will be needed that day - nothing at all fancy. These may be adjoined in some way to the equipment "shed."

And I do confess that I am hoping for Leof to do well in the race...

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Firefoot

The image that I've had as far as stables go is this:

The horses normally stay in a couple of paddocks (I don't know how many - 2 or 3? But every time they're referred to it's been plural...). There's probably some kind of equipment shed or lean to or something or other to keep saddles etc dry and out of the elements. I also described a couple of "stalls" (maybe two of them) for short-term holding of horses that Leof knows in advance will be needed that day - nothing at all fancy. These may be adjoined in some way to the equipment "shed."

So it was said, and so it shall be.

Looks like the horse readying has been agreed upon alread - 1 hour.

If I don't remember to, Lommy, remind me to list you as caretaker for the stone throwing. Thanks!

EDIT: Oh my and oh my, and now the triangular plot really thickens, as Eodwine must "make his confession". This will get interesting, as soon as I have a chance to post, which will most likely not be until tomorrow. I foresee the second heated argument in one day in which Saeryn will be involved...

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

EDIT: Oh my and oh my, and now the triangular plot really thickens, as Eodwine must "make his confession". This will get interesting, as soon as I have a chance to post, which will most likely not be until tomorrow. I foresee the second heated argument in one day in which Saeryn will be involved...

Man...I hate Rowenna so much right now...

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Man...I hate Rowenna so much right now...

And I reiterate.

The plot thickens, as they say.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Folwren

I don't want to decide who wins the horse race, because right now, I've got my feelings way too much wrapped up in Saeryn and want her to win very badly indeed. Who else has preferences? Who knows they're NOT going to win?

I suspect that Crabannan's horse will pull out a stellar performance, but simply not be able to beat the competition - after all, he is racing against the horses of the Rohirrim. It would be SO wrong if he won.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

That scheming Rowenna!

/indignation.

Hah! I love it. The drama amuses me to no end.

[Folwren]

It's looking like most races are about a mile long, in professional race tracks. I was seeing races anywhere from 5/8 of a mile to 1.5 miles.

I'd say the race has to be at least an eighth of a mile. That's 220 yards. I feel as though a horse needs at least that much distance to really begin to run and to begin competing against the other horses. My only constraint is that it might be a little too short, even.

[Folwren]

I knew it! I just KNEW that she'd be arriving at the wrong moment! Argh!

I'll be looking forward to your post with great...anxiety...(I don't take suspense well.) (But I love it so much.)

-- Folwren

[Firefoot]

I'm gonna have to think about this one...

[Gwathagor]

"" is right, Firefoot. Wow.

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

"" is right, Firefoot. Wow.

I couldn't have said it better, Gwathagor! I never saw that one coming. Nice job with your post Elempi, Folwren, and Firefoot, you're all handling this brilliantly.

[Groin Redbeard]

Question: is Rowenna really leaving, or is Saeryn going to stop her?

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

Question: is Rowenna really leaving, or is Saeryn going to stop her?

We shall have to see. One thing does seem evident to me: Saeryn will have a choice to make, whether to keep talking with Rowenna in hopes of persuading her to return, or be in the horse race - but not both. It's up to Foley (based on a PM post a-building) which way that will go.

[Folwren]

I got that post up sooner than I expected...

Elempi, I thought that if you were willing, we should write a PM built post about the conversation/confrontation between Saeryn and Rowenna. That is, if Eodwine lets her go...

[littlemanpoet]

Please don't wait for Foley's and my pm post. Let's carry on with the horse race and any other posts anybody wants to write. Saeryn and Rowenna are out of the horse race.

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

Please don't wait for Foley's and my pm post. Let's carry on with the horse race and any other posts anybody wants to write. Saeryn and Rowenna are out of the horse race.

That leaves Erbrand, Eodwine, Javan, Léof, Crabannan, Degas, Aethelstan, and Matrim for the race. I'll get a post up for Lithor getting things ready.

[Folwren]

Well...there is my best shot. I hope it suffices. *fleeting smile* I knew it needed to be gotten up as soon as possible, so I did it tonight. If, sometime later, I think I could redo it better, I will.

Edit: Erbrand was in the race, right?

-- Foley

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Edit: Erbrand was in the race, right?

Yep, great job Folwren. I enjoyed the post almost as much as a real horse race.

The foot race is next then, right?

[Folwren]

The foot race could conceivably take place right there where the horse race just happened.

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Folwren

The foot race could conceivably take place right there where the horse race just happened.

Yes, the same with the Three- legged race.

Nogrod, I'd be happy to take charge of the Javelin throwing if you want to take the Staff fight. I don't have any experience in either, so it would be nice if we had someone who did.

I won't be able to get a post up for Erbrand tomorrow, but I'll do it as soon as I can, with his post race thoughts. Gwathagor, I'd very much like to here your characters view on the race, since there was so much focus on you Crabanna, or rather your horse: Horse!

[littlemanpoet]

In my humble opinion, since the longer distance runners are involved in both the three legged race & archery, they're so beat right now that lunch ought to come before anything. Consider that an executive decision.

LUNCH TIME!


....or whatever they called it in Rohan....

[Folwren]

"S - T...What comes after T?"

"Dinner!"

"What? Dinner time?"

"It's dinner time!"

"No, it's not!"

"Oh."

Okay, lunch sound superb. And they wouldn't call it lunch, I don't think, it'd be either the noon time meal or dinner.

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

In my humble opinion, since the longer distance runners are involved in both the three legged race & archery, they're so beat right now that lunch ought to come before anything. Consider that an executive decision.

A good idea.

I'll try to post tomorrow for the kids at least. If anyone feels to engage the boys or Stigend / Garstan feel free to go for it.

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

In my humble opinion, since the longer distance runners are involved in both the three legged race & archery, they're so beat right now that lunch ought to come before anything. Consider that an executive decision.

LUNCH TIME!

You remind me of that scene in Gone With The Wind where the forman is arguing about who says it's quit'n time! Sounds like a good decision!

I'll get my post up today, I've been stalling for so long.