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Gwathagor · 11-05-2008, 11:11 PM

I believe you are right, and I suspect Brinniel will support us on this.

So do we lynch Sally or Gollum? It doesn't make much difference, but we should all vote for the same person.

Gollum the Great · 11-06-2008, 12:10 AM

Wait a second.

How do we know Gwath and Brinn aren't lying as well? We all know how subtle and elastic Brinn is, and what evil schemes Gwath can pull up when least expected. I'd keep an eye on that duo.

Shastanis Althreduin · 11-06-2008, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Gollum the Great

Wait a second.

How do we know Gwath and Brinn aren't lying as well? We all know how subtle and elastic Brinn is, and what evil schemes Gwath can pull up when least expected. I'd keep an eye on that duo.

Because Eomer and Fea died evil, and no innocent Gifteds have died yet, and Di wouldn't have left us giftedless?

Well, if we want to be canon (as I suspect Gollum and Sally are Romeo and Juliet), we ought to vote Gollum.

Nogrod · 11-06-2008, 07:30 AM

Well done people!

I would have liked to lynch Fea more than Eomer (I was more convinced of her guilt) but I must say the choice between Eomer and Brinn was quite easy to make. And the result was the same anyway...

*

So what now?

The scenario Shasta outlined seems to be the obvious one and by leaving the game for good Groin made it even clearer. How disappointing! This was getting interesting and fun!

And the fact that no one died last Night even if a kill was attempted kind of talks on behalf of a two ranger -theory - or at least on behalf of Brinn being targeted and saved by Gwath and thus adding credibility to the general theory about the roles.

If nothing very disturbing is not coming forwards toDay I'm quite ready to vote for Gollum or Sally toDay to end the game.

But if there is still some mischief around we need to go and look back first. It would be bad to lose a game just because we lulled ourselves to a premature good feeling and confidence.

Although one thing no one has yet mentioned would speak on behalf of there being only one pair of lovers left. And that is the fact that Fea and Eomer were cobbler lovers which probably means they had no kills of their own. Thus there were two kills (attempts) per Night before Cabbie & Greenie were lynched and only one after that.

So Sally and Gollum, you should try to convince us (me and Shasta) that Brinn and Gwath are faking lovers and not actually the seer and the ranger. Or that Brinn has for some reason lied to the village and either me or Shasta (or both... or any combination of the four others than you) are the last lovers...

I waiting for your cases.

But to feel a bit more confident myself I will also take a tour back to check a few things even if the case against Sally and Gollum looks pretty believable at the moment.

Edit * Funny how staying awake late kills one's memory... I was pretty convinced Fea was a baddie yesterDay until that false-seer idea came up (and which I had totally forgotten until I went back and read the last Day through just now). Had Fea been just a false seer she would probably have been counted as an innocent... But we made it and that's good.

Gwathagor · 11-06-2008, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Gollum the Great

Wait a second.

How do we know Gwath and Brinn aren't lying as well? We all know how subtle and elastic Brinn is, and what evil schemes Gwath can pull up when least expected. I'd keep an eye on that duo.

I am in the process of pulling up an evil scheme especially for you, Gollum. And here it is:

++Gollum

Nogrod · 11-06-2008, 09:00 AM

Good to see someone else around.

I went back checking Brinn's dreams and her posts and it looks pretty consistent (well, were she a baddie she would have looked to it).

There's indeed only one question I'd like to make to Brinn.

So how come you decided to dream of Gwath the Night before even if Fea had made that "revelation" of hers the Day before that already? Somehow you didn't feel it compelling enough to check her out but chose Gwath?

Brinniel · 11-06-2008, 10:33 AM

About Fea and Eomer: It seems they weren't completely lying. There were three rangers after all; it's just one was evil. I can't believe I was actually right about something without dreaming it...Fea was indeed a cobbler seer.

Well, with Groin's modfire it seems clear enough, but here it is anyway:

++Sally

Though you may call her Juliet.

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

So how come you decided to dream of Gwath the Night before even if Fea had made that "revelation" of hers the Day before that already? Somehow you didn't feel it compelling enough to check her out but chose Gwath?

I didn't dream of her because I figured she was evil in one way or another, and wasn't worth my time. Meanwhile, Gwath I had no idea about.

Nogrod · 11-06-2008, 11:18 AM

Gwath voted for Gollum.
Brinn voted for Sally.

And did you forget to dream last Night Brinn? If you were the real seer giving the information about the result of it would have been a natural thing to do just to give us others an understanding of the situation. I mean if what you have said is true you'd had 2/3 chances of getting us the baddie.

But on the contrary you say:

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Originally Posted by Brinn

Well, with Groin's modfire it seems clear enough

So you do not know it for sure?

Something is not right here...

satansaloser2005 · 11-06-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Gwath voted for Gollum.
Brinn voted for Sally.

And did you forget to dream last Night Brinn? If you were the real seer giving the information about the result of it would have been a natural thing to do just to give us others an understanding of the situation. I mean if what you have said is true you'd had 2/3 chances of getting us the baddie.

But on the contrary you say: So you do not know it for sure?

Something is not right here...

I'd second this, for I find it very odd too, but then again if I was a lover I'd say the same thing, so what's the use?

Hey, Shasta's being canonical! Woot!

Brinniel · 11-06-2008, 11:24 AM

Sorry, I realised I probably should've voted Gollum after I already voted.

I dreamt of Sally, which is why I voted her.

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

So you do not know it for sure?

I didn't say that. Sally is a lover. I know that for a fact. And Gollum is the other lover because he's the only one left I haven't dreamed of. Unless Di gave me false dreams.

11-05-2008, 11:11 PM	#1
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	I believe you are right, and I suspect Brinniel will support us on this. So do we lynch Sally or Gollum? It doesn't make much difference, but we should all vote for the same person. __________________ Stories and songs.

11-06-2008, 12:10 AM	#2
Gollum the Great Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Pinnacle of my own might Posts: 386	Wait a second. How do we know Gwath and Brinn aren't lying as well? We all know how subtle and elastic Brinn is, and what evil schemes Gwath can pull up when least expected. I'd keep an eye on that duo. __________________ 'It just shows you how true it is that one-half the world doesn't knows how the other three-quarters lives.' Bertie, The Code of the Woosters, by P. G. Wodewouse

11-06-2008, 07:30 AM	#4
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Well done people! I would have liked to lynch Fea more than Eomer (I was more convinced of her guilt) but I must say the choice between Eomer and Brinn was quite easy to make. And the result was the same anyway... * So what now? The scenario Shasta outlined seems to be the obvious one and by leaving the game for good Groin made it even clearer. How disappointing! This was getting interesting and fun! And the fact that no one died last Night even if a kill was attempted kind of talks on behalf of a two ranger -theory - or at least on behalf of Brinn being targeted and saved by Gwath and thus adding credibility to the general theory about the roles. If nothing very disturbing is not coming forwards toDay I'm quite ready to vote for Gollum or Sally toDay to end the game. But if there is still some mischief around we need to go and look back first. It would be bad to lose a game just because we lulled ourselves to a premature good feeling and confidence. Although one thing no one has yet mentioned would speak on behalf of there being only one pair of lovers left. And that is the fact that Fea and Eomer were cobbler lovers which probably means they had no kills of their own. Thus there were two kills (attempts) per Night before Cabbie & Greenie were lynched and only one after that. So Sally and Gollum, you should try to convince us (me and Shasta) that Brinn and Gwath are faking lovers and not actually the seer and the ranger. Or that Brinn has for some reason lied to the village and either me or Shasta (or both... or any combination of the four others than you) are the last lovers... I waiting for your cases. But to feel a bit more confident myself I will also take a tour back to check a few things even if the case against Sally and Gollum looks pretty believable at the moment. Edit * Funny how staying awake late kills one's memory... I was pretty convinced Fea was a baddie yesterDay until that false-seer idea came up (and which I had totally forgotten until I went back and read the last Day through just now). Had Fea been just a false seer she would probably have been counted as an innocent... But we made it and that's good. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet... Last edited by Nogrod; 11-06-2008 at 08:09 AM.

11-06-2008, 09:00 AM	#6
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Good to see someone else around. I went back checking Brinn's dreams and her posts and it looks pretty consistent (well, were she a baddie she would have looked to it). There's indeed only one question I'd like to make to Brinn. So how come you decided to dream of Gwath the Night before even if Fea had made that "revelation" of hers the Day before that already? Somehow you didn't feel it compelling enough to check her out but chose Gwath? __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...