Tears of Mirrormere Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Thinlómien · 11-11-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kath

Alright Lommy, I haven't stopped thinking about this since you mentioned it so here I am! I'm still thinking on characters but just wanted to say that I would love to play. I will probably have two characters, Dwarf and wife, if that's alright. Will try to get bio's up within the next couple of days.

Oh, that's lovely, Kath.

And Dimturiel too - so great to have you both here, and Dimtury's* bio looks very good.

*Do you have a proper nickname?

Oh, and lastly, I think our female quota is about full after Kath's characters...

Kath · 11-11-2008, 03:43 PM

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Do you have a proper nickname?

You mean we can't just call her Dim?

Thinlómien · 11-11-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kath

You mean we can't just call her Dim?

Well, I figured it could be a little offensive unless she herself says it's a valid nickname for her...

Gwathagor · 11-11-2008, 06:07 PM

Wow. This is a lot of dwarves.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-11-2008, 06:26 PM

"The more, the merrier," said the Orc and sharpened his scimitar.

Folwren · 11-11-2008, 08:21 PM

I've got a question and I'm not sure where to find the answer in the books. How old do dwarve's get? If they're considered on the young side until they're 100, when are they considered old?

-- Foley

piosenniel · 11-11-2008, 08:51 PM

There are links for various sources of Tolkien Dwarves' information in Post # 5 of this thread.

I believe there is a short entry about Dwarven Mortality in the Encyclopedia of Arda link in the afore mentioned post.

~*~ Pio

Gwathagor · 11-11-2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Folwren

I've got a question and I'm not sure where to find the answer in the books. How old do dwarve's get? If they're considered on the young side until they're 100, when are they considered old?

-- Foley

I have been under the impression for some time that 250 is an average dwarf lifespan. I imagine, then, that they would begin to be considered old when they reach 180 or 190? The stages of length (youth, middle-age, etc.) get drawn out, of course, since the life as a whole is much longer than a human's.

piosenniel · 11-12-2008, 10:53 PM

Nicely done old guy, Folwren!

Thinlómien · 11-19-2008, 04:00 AM

Just because I was curious I wanted to list all the characters in an order of their ages... It looks rather interesting:

Nali 227 (Groin)
Óin 220 (Legate)
Kénan 210 (Folwren)
Ori 194 (Lommy)
Frar 175 (Gwath)
Vigdis 147 (Lommy)
Trór 140 (Groin)
Svior 130 (Kath)
Onli 126 (Legate)
Hepti 125 (Kath)
Vitr 101 (Arry)
Dalin ~100 (Himaran)
Gror 95 (Boro)
Kórin 92 (Dury)
Kór 88 (Dury)
Lys and Nîsa 87 (Lilly and Groin)
Buri 85 (Gwath)
Bain 80 (Dim)
Adela 52 (Ilya)
Kéni 20 (Kit)
Iari 10 (Kit)
Tiv and Tíva 7 (Lilly&Arry)

I think the ages go rather nicely...

And looking at all these Dwarves, they amuse me. Somehow people always pick names that amuse me as a Finn. Don't worry, there's nothing too bad around this time

- just that: tror = believe (Swedish), naali (close enough to Náli) = arctic fox (Finnish), and ori = stallion (Finnish again, and I know, it's me who plays him... and as a sidenote, "kili" means a little goat in Finnish). And Jari would be a Finnish man's name but it took me a very long time to even vaguely connect that with Iari.

Okay, to return to a bit more serious stuff...

I also thought a list of professions would be good (now please correct me if I've got something wrong about your characters) if not for anything else, than at least when thinking about possible connections:

Trór - Balin's second in command, warrior
Nîsa - sort of a healer, no special profession
Nali - loremaster, warrior
Ori - ironsmith, sort of loremaster, semi-warrior
Vigdis - mason, semi-warrior
Óin - scout (that includes warriorism/semi-warriorism)
Onli - adminstratory guy
Frar - warrior
Buri - smith
Kór and Kórin - no special professions?
Lys - jewellry smith (is that a word?)
Vitr - jack of all trades craftsman (prefers working on mithril)
Bain - craftsman (not specified)
Kénan - no special profession?
Gror - warrior, messenger
Dalin - weaponsmith (again, is that a word?), semi-warrior
Adela - cook
Svior - jack-of-all-trades, semi-warrior, learning mining
Hepti - smith

Kath - do you think Vigdis and Hepti being friends would sound good? Not probably very close friends as they both strike me as a bit workaholic

but I just have the feeling they would probably get along well...

Groin - you said Nali is the friend of masons? That would mean he'd know Vigdis, most probably. Do we want them to be friends or do we want Vigdis have some silly old grudge against him? I think either of those ideas would be good... Also, as a loremaster and old, important dwarf, Nali would probably know Ori. I think we can assume they're friends?

Legate - I have no idea why I'm writing this as it's so obvious, but Ori and Óin are surely friends?

Arry - you mentioned stone masonry as being one of Vitr's professions. Would it be ok for you if he and Vigdis were friends?

Okay, that's all that seems obvious to me. I will try to think of a few more connections to my characters... also, anyone, if you'd like my characters to know yours, just ask - it'd be great.

And now, lastly, one more reminder for everybody: practically everyone is going to die in this RPG. Also, we have quite a lot of characters. So, especially those who have more than one character, don't shy away from killing off them even quite early. It's better if they don't all die in the last battle. I may personally say that I will save Ori to the last moments since that's what LotR says, but Vigdis will be killed of before that. Also, hmm, don't take these words of mine too seriously - don't ruin your RPG experience by pondering all the time how you could get your characters killed. *would add a smiley, but you know, there's a limit....*

11-11-2008, 06:07 PM	#4
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	Wow. This is a lot of dwarves. __________________ Stories and songs.

11-11-2008, 06:26 PM	#5
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	"The more, the merrier," said the Orc and sharpened his scimitar. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-11-2008, 08:21 PM	#6
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	I've got a question and I'm not sure where to find the answer in the books. How old do dwarve's get? If they're considered on the young side until they're 100, when are they considered old? -- Foley __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

11-11-2008, 08:51 PM	#7
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	There are links for various sources of Tolkien Dwarves' information in Post # 5 of this thread. I believe there is a short entry about Dwarven Mortality in the Encyclopedia of Arda link in the afore mentioned post. ~*~ Pio __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

11-12-2008, 10:53 PM	#9
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Nicely done old guy, Folwren! __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside. Last edited by piosenniel; 11-13-2008 at 11:26 AM.

11-19-2008, 04:00 AM	#10
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Just because I was curious I wanted to list all the characters in an order of their ages... It looks rather interesting: Nali 227 (Groin) Óin 220 (Legate) Kénan 210 (Folwren) Ori 194 (Lommy) Frar 175 (Gwath) Vigdis 147 (Lommy) Trór 140 (Groin) Svior 130 (Kath) Onli 126 (Legate) Hepti 125 (Kath) Vitr 101 (Arry) Dalin ~100 (Himaran) Gror 95 (Boro) Kórin 92 (Dury) Kór 88 (Dury) Lys and Nîsa 87 (Lilly and Groin) Buri 85 (Gwath) Bain 80 (Dim) Adela 52 (Ilya) Kéni 20 (Kit) Iari 10 (Kit) Tiv and Tíva 7 (Lilly&Arry) I think the ages go rather nicely... And looking at all these Dwarves, they amuse me. Somehow people always pick names that amuse me as a Finn. Don't worry, there's nothing too bad around this time - just that: tror = believe (Swedish), naali (close enough to Náli) = arctic fox (Finnish), and ori = stallion (Finnish again, and I know, it's me who plays him... and as a sidenote, "kili" means a little goat in Finnish). And Jari would be a Finnish man's name but it took me a very long time to even vaguely connect that with Iari. Okay, to return to a bit more serious stuff... I also thought a list of professions would be good (now please correct me if I've got something wrong about your characters) if not for anything else, than at least when thinking about possible connections: Trór - Balin's second in command, warrior Nîsa - sort of a healer, no special profession Nali - loremaster, warrior Ori - ironsmith, sort of loremaster, semi-warrior Vigdis - mason, semi-warrior Óin - scout (that includes warriorism/semi-warriorism) Onli - adminstratory guy Frar - warrior Buri - smith Kór and Kórin - no special professions? Lys - jewellry smith (is that a word?) Vitr - jack of all trades craftsman (prefers working on mithril) Bain - craftsman (not specified) Kénan - no special profession? Gror - warrior, messenger Dalin - weaponsmith (again, is that a word?), semi-warrior Adela - cook Svior - jack-of-all-trades, semi-warrior, learning mining Hepti - smith Kath - do you think Vigdis and Hepti being friends would sound good? Not probably very close friends as they both strike me as a bit workaholic but I just have the feeling they would probably get along well... Groin - you said Nali is the friend of masons? That would mean he'd know Vigdis, most probably. Do we want them to be friends or do we want Vigdis have some silly old grudge against him? I think either of those ideas would be good... Also, as a loremaster and old, important dwarf, Nali would probably know Ori. I think we can assume they're friends? Legate - I have no idea why I'm writing this as it's so obvious, but Ori and Óin are surely friends? Arry - you mentioned stone masonry as being one of Vitr's professions. Would it be ok for you if he and Vigdis were friends? Okay, that's all that seems obvious to me. I will try to think of a few more connections to my characters... also, anyone, if you'd like my characters to know yours, just ask - it'd be great. And now, lastly, one more reminder for everybody: practically everyone is going to die in this RPG. Also, we have quite a lot of characters. So, especially those who have more than one character, don't shy away from killing off them even quite early. It's better if they don't all die in the last battle. I may personally say that I will save Ori to the last moments since that's what LotR says, but Vigdis will be killed of before that. Also, hmm, don't take these words of mine too seriously - don't ruin your RPG experience by pondering all the time how you could get your characters killed. would add a smiley, but you know, there's a limit.... __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris