Tears of Mirrormere Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Groin Redbeard · 11-19-2008, 11:07 AM

There are so many wonderful characters here that I found great difficulty picking out the ones that my characters most adapt to. Fortunately there is at least one of every type of personality here, no shortages on characters to choose from.

Tror

Thinlomien- Ori and Tror definately know each other and obviously are friends.

Legate- Same thing as I told Lommy, although Oin might be Tror's best friend. Oin is obviosly more of a battle hardened type and Tror would depend on him greatly when in battle, ergo a relationship must have been formed if they are to work closely together.

Gwath- I had trouble with your character. Frar is definately a warrior like Tror and by the looks of it they are pretty much par with fighting ability (but if one is to be better than the other, I'd say you win), now Tror can take this as rivalry or he can simply acknowledge that you are the better man. Personally I think a bit of rivalry between the two would be nice

, what do you think?

Folwren- Your character Kenan is pretty much in line to Tror's way of thinking. Although he is younger than your character I think that Kenan and him are pretty much alike. Unfortunately I don't know where to go with it, should there be a quiet fatherly friendship between the two?

Nisa

Kath- Nisa might have a crush on Hepti, would that be fine. *smiley*

Ilya- I think that it would be probable that Nisa and Adela would know each other, being the same age and all. Would this be alright with you?

Lilly- Lys, if it is alright with you, would be the one that Nisa would hang out with the most. Although your character is a bit rough (personality wise) something just keeps telling me that Nisa and her would get along. Would this be fine?

Arry/Lilly- Children would be a soft spot for Nisa, giving her gentle nature, would it be fine if the children new her?

Kitanna- The same with your character Iari, she's so cute and think that Nisa could resist to lover her. *big grin*

Lommy- That girl (oops... this is getting fun *big smile*) Vigdis would grind with Nisa's gentle nature. Do you think that it would be alright to have a some resentment towards them (working class vs. aristocracy)?

Nali

Lommy- They would definately know each other and intrigue each other.

To your character Vigdis, I've been thinking about it and Nali might actually like Vigdis more than I thought. Maybe just some mere admiration for her work, but I don't know if Vigdis will accept this or be disgusted by it.

Durelin- I thinking that it might be possible that on some occasion your character, Korin, made an insult/joke at Nali and being the silent serious fellow he is, took it to heart and has had contempt for her since. Something along those line *smiles* if this sounds good to you that's fine, but I don't think that Nali would get along with Korin even if that didn't happen.

Folwren- Do you think that Nali and Keanan might get along? Being around the same age I thought that they might know eath other, those oldtimers kind of stick with each other.

All you players who have feisty dwarves- Nali is a thinker and might often listen to the debates that the other dwarves have, but rarely take part in them. So just a note that some of the dwarves, whose nature is to argue, might know him (and he know them).

Wow, my characters have a lot of friends!

I might have to cut back on them before the game begins! *winks*

Durelin · 11-19-2008, 11:33 AM

Hmm, I guess Kor and Korin are a little purposeless...do you want me to give them a craft? I mean, they could easily be fine basic laborers. But mostly they're *here* simply for the adventure and because of pride for their people. Especially Korin. Kor is more of a tag along.

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Originally Posted by Groin

I thinking that it might be possible that on some occasion your character, Korin, made an insult/joke at Nali and being the silent serious fellow he is, took it to heart and has had contempt for her since. Something along those line *smiles* if this sounds good to you that's fine, but I don't think that Nali would get along with Korin even if that didn't happen.

I think Korin would rub a lot of people the wrong way - probably she wouldn't get along with Nali or Nisa. Kor on the other hand will probably get along with everyone, because outwardly he is quite nice and polite and soft-spoken, though I am sure especially some of the warrior types might think he's a little odd. Nali might actually like him, though...we'll have to see I think.

I think we'll see as the game gets started what characters just seem to gravitate to others...but I agree with Folwren that at least all of them should know each other by face/name. It's also simpler that way for the game.

Dimturiel · 11-19-2008, 12:23 PM

I just realised I did not say what exactly Bain does as a craftsman. Well, I was thinking he might be a smith-working mostly with jewelry, but also with weapons from time to time. Also, I was thinking that the obvious people he is most aquainted with are those that have the same profession as his. I believe they were bound to have spent quite a lot of time together in the colony, especially at the beginning when they have probably been working together at all sorts of things...

Kath · 11-19-2008, 02:22 PM

Haha that would be absolutely fine Groin!

Ilya · 11-19-2008, 03:27 PM

Groin: Nisa's actually a few years older, but I can see them definitely knowing each other and Adela slipping her herbs and stuff on the sly or something.

Thinlómien · 11-20-2008, 12:12 PM

Just to clarify, yes, the Dwarves will probably know each other's faces at least. Also, no way do we have to know who's whose friend at this point. But everybody who thinks they'd feel better knowing their characters relations beforehand, feel free to make suggestions. It's just whichever way of working you prefer. I will probably ask for more friends/relations/rivals for my characters as the game progresses and inspiration strikes, and you others are encouraged to do that too...

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That military training struck me as strange, but not unlikely, that and her parents breaking up but that was about it.

Oh, but that was even more accidental.

Dwarf women just always struck me as rather independent, and of course it was no way an official divorce of anything, if that eases your conservative mind, my friend...

And anyway, I predict it will be good to have one woman around who is not so young (not that she's old either...) and who has some military training...

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I think that it would be more likely for a certain level of animosity between the two of them. Vigdis you say likes masonry and turned books down a longtime ago, whereas books are Nali's pursuit. Also, Nali might not appreciate a girl (oops...) such as Vigdis, being a dwarf of high quality he's use to higher class women.

Sounds good. And PS. Nali may call Vigdis a girl since he's that old, but I don't promise she will take it kindly... *mischevious grin*

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Sounds like a plan Lommy. A bit of a friends when they meet but they don't really seek each other out thing?

Yep.

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Lommy- That girl (oops... this is getting fun *big smile*) Vigdis would grind with Nisa's gentle nature. Do you think that it would be alright to have a some resentment towards them (working class vs. aristocracy)?

Yesss! I think Vigdis would consider women like Nîsa pretty useless...

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Originally Posted by Groin

To your character Vigdis, I've been thinking about it and Nali might actually like Vigdis more than I thought. Maybe just some mere admiration for her work, but I don't know if Vigdis will accept this or be disgusted by it.

Oh, sounds good - I will think about it how Vigdis thinks about him and his attitude...

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Originally Posted by Durelin

Hmm, I guess Kor and Korin are a little purposeless...do you want me to give them a craft? I mean, they could easily be fine basic laborers.

They don't necessarily need to have one, but you should maybe think about whow they made their living back home etc...

And lastly, if the last-minute planning takes time, it's all my fault. :-)

Gwathagor · 11-20-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Dwarf women just always struck me as rather independent, and of course it was no way an official divorce of anything, if that eases your conservative mind, my friend...

What a picture you must have of conservatives.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-21-2008, 05:43 AM

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Legate - I have no idea why I'm writing this as it's so obvious, but Ori and Óin are surely friends?

Of course. Indeed pretty unnecessary to even ask that

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Legate- Same thing as I told Lommy, although Oin might be Tror's best friend. Oin is obviosly more of a battle hardened type and Tror would depend on him greatly when in battle, ergo a relationship must have been formed if they are to work closely together.

The first part sounds good - although that doesn't necessarily mean that Óin considers Tror his best friend, because for certain, he knows at least Ori probably for lot longer and had gone through more and more dramatic situations with him (like being almost baked by a Dragon

). As for the battle thing, Óin is more of a "solo" type when it comes to fighting: he has this military experience and knows about tactics and sticking together, but he is not a "professional" warrior. It was just his "racial responsibility" to go to Azanulbizar when he was younger. Then, it is probable that in all the occassions when Tror and him fought together (i.e. here in Moria when they were chasing the Orcs out), he was together with him in a few battles, but Óin is not the one into big battles, but rather a member of a small group who flanks the people etc., where I would probably expect Tror to be the leader of the main wave. So, what do you think?

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Oh, but that was even more accidental. Dwarf women just always struck me as rather independent, and of course it was no way an official divorce of anything, if that eases your conservative mind, my friend...

Well, I would have hoped you did not have any "official" divorce in mind in the first place - for that will sound really out-of-place. *incanonity police goes back again to its office*

Say what, I will re-read all the characters and will post another longer post (now this sounds like WW! Oh my!), now concerning the possible relations of my characters towards everybody.

And, by the way, I did not seem to see any answer, not from Groin, nor from anybody else: I take it that I should take Lóni, then?

Groin Redbeard · 12-04-2008, 01:29 PM

Wow, when sun goes down, things get active in the Downs.

I'm going to have to catch up on some of y'all's posts.

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Kath- Nisa might have a crush on Hepti, would that be fine. *smiley*

What was I saying here? I just found remembered that I said this, I must have confused Hepti with your Svori character, Kath. That's really embarrassing, I have to read posts more carefully next time, sorry!

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When I posted, I had no realized that Tror would be second in command, after Balin, and therefore now Lord of Moria. If you think it appropriate, I can edit my post and have it reflect that position with how Kenan addresses him.

I don't think that Tror has realized that this is so. Balin has only been dead for so short a time and he would most likely snap at anyone who called him lord before Balin was properly buried. Leave things the way they are, Folwren, I'm sure it's fine.

I'll get a post up tonight for Tror and Nisa. Since Kath has already posted (yeah!) is it alright if we announce the death of Balin?

Kath · 12-04-2008, 01:34 PM

Haha oops Groin! Well Nisa can like Svori maybe?

Yep, yep I'm fine for you to go ahead and bring Balin in now.

Thinlómien · 12-04-2008, 02:18 PM

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Haha oops Groin! Well Nisa can like Svori maybe?

Isn't his name Svior, not Svori?

And it is fine by me too to bring Balin in now.

Kath · 12-04-2008, 02:59 PM

Oh no! I wrote it as Svior the first time and went and changed it in my post - fool. I'll go back and edit it later. It is Svior.

Groin Redbeard · 12-04-2008, 08:03 PM

I've got my post up, Balin's death is now known to the colony. I tried to make the post proper, fitting to what a soldier might say.

Great post for Onli, Legate.

Who was that other character you wrote for? I couldn't find the person on your character list.

piosenniel · 12-04-2008, 08:47 PM

I've clarified that, Groin. Vriti is a ferret - the pet of Onli.

~*~ Pio

11-19-2008, 11:07 AM	#1
Groin Redbeard Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Facing the world's troubles with Christ's hope! Posts: 1,635	There are so many wonderful characters here that I found great difficulty picking out the ones that my characters most adapt to. Fortunately there is at least one of every type of personality here, no shortages on characters to choose from. Tror Thinlomien- Ori and Tror definately know each other and obviously are friends. Legate- Same thing as I told Lommy, although Oin might be Tror's best friend. Oin is obviosly more of a battle hardened type and Tror would depend on him greatly when in battle, ergo a relationship must have been formed if they are to work closely together. Gwath- I had trouble with your character. Frar is definately a warrior like Tror and by the looks of it they are pretty much par with fighting ability (but if one is to be better than the other, I'd say you win), now Tror can take this as rivalry or he can simply acknowledge that you are the better man. Personally I think a bit of rivalry between the two would be nice, what do you think? Folwren- Your character Kenan is pretty much in line to Tror's way of thinking. Although he is younger than your character I think that Kenan and him are pretty much alike. Unfortunately I don't know where to go with it, should there be a quiet fatherly friendship between the two? Nisa Kath- Nisa might have a crush on Hepti, would that be fine. smiley Ilya- I think that it would be probable that Nisa and Adela would know each other, being the same age and all. Would this be alright with you? Lilly- Lys, if it is alright with you, would be the one that Nisa would hang out with the most. Although your character is a bit rough (personality wise) something just keeps telling me that Nisa and her would get along. Would this be fine? Arry/Lilly- Children would be a soft spot for Nisa, giving her gentle nature, would it be fine if the children new her? Kitanna- The same with your character Iari, she's so cute and think that Nisa could resist to lover her. big grin Lommy- That girl (oops... this is getting fun big smile) Vigdis would grind with Nisa's gentle nature. Do you think that it would be alright to have a some resentment towards them (working class vs. aristocracy)? Nali Lommy- They would definately know each other and intrigue each other. To your character Vigdis, I've been thinking about it and Nali might actually like Vigdis more than I thought. Maybe just some mere admiration for her work, but I don't know if Vigdis will accept this or be disgusted by it. Durelin- I thinking that it might be possible that on some occasion your character, Korin, made an insult/joke at Nali and being the silent serious fellow he is, took it to heart and has had contempt for her since. Something along those line smiles if this sounds good to you that's fine, but I don't think that Nali would get along with Korin even if that didn't happen. Folwren- Do you think that Nali and Keanan might get along? Being around the same age I thought that they might know eath other, those oldtimers kind of stick with each other. All you players who have feisty dwarves- Nali is a thinker and might often listen to the debates that the other dwarves have, but rarely take part in them. So just a note that some of the dwarves, whose nature is to argue, might know him (and he know them). Wow, my characters have a lot of friends! I might have to cut back on them before the game begins! winks __________________ I heard the bells on Christmas Day. Their old, familiar carols play. And wild and sweet the words repeatof peace on earth, good-will to men! ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow Last edited by Groin Redbeard; 11-19-2008 at 11:22 AM.

11-19-2008, 12:23 PM	#3
Dimturiel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2005 Location: the road less travelled by Posts: 910	I just realised I did not say what exactly Bain does as a craftsman. Well, I was thinking he might be a smith-working mostly with jewelry, but also with weapons from time to time. Also, I was thinking that the obvious people he is most aquainted with are those that have the same profession as his. I believe they were bound to have spent quite a lot of time together in the colony, especially at the beginning when they have probably been working together at all sorts of things... __________________ Is this the end? No more the hunt, the journey and the goal? That terrifies me most: no more the goal! -Ray Bradbury, Leviathan '99

11-19-2008, 02:22 PM	#4
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Haha that would be absolutely fine Groin! __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

11-19-2008, 03:27 PM	#5
Ilya Wight Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: In the cold Posts: 202	Groin: Nisa's actually a few years older, but I can see them definitely knowing each other and Adela slipping her herbs and stuff on the sly or something. __________________ Arvedui III has walked to Rivendell!

12-04-2008, 01:34 PM	#10
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Haha oops Groin! Well Nisa can like Svori maybe? Yep, yep I'm fine for you to go ahead and bring Balin in now. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

12-04-2008, 02:59 PM	#12
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Oh no! I wrote it as Svior the first time and went and changed it in my post - fool. I'll go back and edit it later. It is Svior. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

12-04-2008, 08:03 PM	#13
Groin Redbeard Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Facing the world's troubles with Christ's hope! Posts: 1,635	I've got my post up, Balin's death is now known to the colony. I tried to make the post proper, fitting to what a soldier might say. Great post for Onli, Legate. Who was that other character you wrote for? I couldn't find the person on your character list. __________________ I heard the bells on Christmas Day. Their old, familiar carols play. And wild and sweet the words repeatof peace on earth, good-will to men! ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

12-04-2008, 08:47 PM	#14
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	I've clarified that, Groin. Vriti is a ferret - the pet of Onli. ~*~ Pio __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.