Werewolf LIII: The Republic - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Boromir88 · 11-19-2008, 11:06 PM

Anyway, that's my big reveal, and I will ask everyone now (excluding morm and Nogrod - you two sit in the corner, and take your unknown wolf partner too

) how can we get this double-lynch today?

mormegil · 11-19-2008, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

Anyway, that's my big reveal, and I will ask everyone now (excluding morm and Nogrod - you two sit in the corner, and take your unknown wolf partner too

) how can we get this double-lynch today?

Okay all I can say is if I were able I would kill my fellow wolves myself. I wanted to kill you since night 1 but didn't assert myself well enough. To find the last wolf just look for the guy who's eating his boot.

Gwathagor · 11-23-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Brinniel

I kinda find it funny that Gwath and Ilya's reactions to Ka's death look so similar. Especially when put next to each other.

That is uncanny. I want to point out that if any imitation occurred, it was on the part of Ilya.

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Originally Posted by mormegil

To find the last wolf just look for the guy who's eating his boot.

Is this a figure of speech that I haven't heard before? Or should we take it as a hint?

I will probably vote phantom for rep, because I know for a fact that he is innocent.

Gwathagor · 11-23-2008, 06:17 PM

I googled the phrase "eat his boot." My only results had to do with Charlie Chaplin, tramps, or some combination thereof. It seems unlikely, though, that morm would hint as to the identities of a fellow wolf. So I guess I should disregard the remark.

EDIT: Crossed with Ilya

Gwathagor · 11-23-2008, 06:21 PM

Now that I think about it, morm was probably just trying to throw us off.i

Boromir88 · 11-19-2008, 11:11 PM

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By the way, was it near the end of Day 2 that you came to believe that I figured you were the Seer?

Yes, I thought you probably figured it out because of my relatively quick turn from almost voting to lynch Agan and then voting her as my rep the next day. I loved the attitude of "I'm not going to get lynched because of Boro" yesterday.

Ilya, thank you, and I hope you got to see now some of the seer mechanics and hints...are you the 4th wolf by the way?

Boromir88 · 11-19-2008, 11:16 PM

morm, I enjoyed our sideshow yesterday, I hope you had some fun. You're a tough one to crack, but I really didn't expect you too...I just like putting on a show.

So, are you saying if we all vote for you as rep, you will vote to lynch the unknown 4th wolf and then we could proceed to double-lynch you and Nogrod the following day? Or do you want to do the doublye-lynch today, and lynch you tomorrow so you could have the dignity of being the last wolf? You're driving a hard bargain.

Ilya · 11-19-2008, 11:16 PM

A plan: Not The Plan, but a plan: It just seems like we need reps who'll step up and coordinate their votes by dividing the votes quickly, in close succession. Then somebody filibusters (phantom, this would be your calling, I believe) until the deadline passes. I can't believe I'm saying this, but fewer reps would probably get the job done easier.

Edit: Ha, Boro, I kinda wish I was, actually. Then the game I've been playing would seem so much more well constructed and sly and calculating than it really is.

Boromir88 · 11-19-2008, 11:18 PM

Ilya, I was going to tell tp we will probably need his filibuster, you're good in mind book. If you're a wolf, well...nevermind I just hope you aren't.

Ilya · 11-19-2008, 11:23 PM

Isn't there a special Ordo that can turn into a wolf at will, or something? That'd be cool, then I could just be like, "Oh, I was totally a wolf all along." Ah well. Another time.

Congrats on the 4000 posts, by the way.

the phantom · 11-19-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Boro

Yes, I thought you probably figured it out because of my relatively quick turn from almost voting to lynch Agan and then voting her as my rep the next day. I loved the attitude of "I'm not going to get lynched because of Boro" yesterday.

Heh heh... Figured you might.

Yeah, after Day 1 my list of possible Seers was Kath, Green, Gwath, morm, Brin, and you. I was hoping it was you because that would mean that I was already Seer dreamed innocent.

When you continued your treatment of me on Day 2 and told Agan that you were a bit too hasty with her, I started leaning heavily in your direction.

By the time I made this post here I was pretty well bought in-

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Originally Posted by me

Very briefly, I feel rather good about Aganzir. The way she's responding to arguments as well as more light-hearted comments... seems very innocent to me. But most convincing to me is the way she worded and handled our old joke about her being a WW and me helping her win as an Ordo. She's either innocent or gave perfect innocent reactions.

I think I trust her more than Boro even at this point.

I was trying to poach your dream, essentially, and make both Agan and myself a juicier target than you.

And the stuff at the very end of Day 2- well, that was just plain fun.

the phantom · 11-19-2008, 11:29 PM

I'm currently pondering the double lynch situation. I'll make a post soon.

the phantom · 11-19-2008, 11:37 PM

As far as the double lynch, here's what I see...

We are working with 11 people (I'm not counting morm and Nog and Gil).

I think we can probably count on all eleven to follow orders because the one remaining Werewolf won't dare step out of line at this point in the game.

We vote Boro three votes.

We vote phantom three votes.

Now, we just need to select someone else to receive three votes, and a fourth person to receive two votes.

If we do that then we don't need to filibuster or anything.

the phantom · 11-19-2008, 11:42 PM

If we follow the voting plan above, then our voting Reps will hold the following vote power-

3-3-3-2

If either morm or Nog votes for a Rep with 3 votes, the other three-vote Reps cast their votes and the people with 4 and 2 abstain, resulting in a tie.

If both morm and Nog vote for the same Rep, once again two of the Reps with 3 votes force a tie.

If they vote for two different 3-vote Reps, they'll still be tied.

If they vote for a 3-vote Rep and the 2-vote Rep, there will still be multiple 3-vote Reps, and thus a tie vote is once again possible.

So long as we do our Rep voting early in the day, and do our lynch voting early in the Day, those two WWs can't possibly filibuster the entire Day.

the phantom · 11-19-2008, 11:45 PM

Please tell me if you see a flaw in the plan. I'm tired, so I may have overlooked something.

But if no one spots anything, I will be happy to write up a voting map which will assign everyone a Rep to vote for.

All we need to do is come up with our two other Reps. It won't really matter if we choose a WW, because, as I said earlier, he won't dare step out of line when he's the last one left.

Nerwen · 11-19-2008, 11:50 PM

I'd be very happy to run for office on a "lynch morm" ticket. Just for the good of the village, you understand.

the phantom · 11-19-2008, 11:51 PM

Well, Nerwen, can you promise promise promise that you will be around early during Part 2 of toDay?

In other words, will you be around exactly 22 hours from now?

mormegil · 11-20-2008, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

I'd be very happy to run for office on a "lynch morm" ticket. Just for the good of the village, you understand.

*wink wink* Good job Nerwen, nobody will suspect you now.

Gwathagor · 11-19-2008, 11:57 PM

Well, Boro, since morm has more or less admitted his guilt, I'm on board for whatever you want to do. Just give the word.

the phantom · 11-20-2008, 12:09 AM

Those of you who are around, please look over the voting plan outlined in posts #1253 and #1254.

If it looks to you like it is sound, let me know so that I can begin outlining the plan in greater detail.

11-23-2008, 06:17 PM	#4
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	I googled the phrase "eat his boot." My only results had to do with Charlie Chaplin, tramps, or some combination thereof. It seems unlikely, though, that morm would hint as to the identities of a fellow wolf. So I guess I should disregard the remark. EDIT: Crossed with Ilya __________________ Stories and songs.

11-23-2008, 06:21 PM	#5
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	Now that I think about it, morm was probably just trying to throw us off.i __________________ Stories and songs.

11-19-2008, 11:16 PM	#7
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	morm, I enjoyed our sideshow yesterday, I hope you had some fun. You're a tough one to crack, but I really didn't expect you too...I just like putting on a show. So, are you saying if we all vote for you as rep, you will vote to lynch the unknown 4th wolf and then we could proceed to double-lynch you and Nogrod the following day? Or do you want to do the doublye-lynch today, and lynch you tomorrow so you could have the dignity of being the last wolf? You're driving a hard bargain. __________________ Fenris Penguin

11-19-2008, 11:16 PM	#8
Ilya Wight Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: In the cold Posts: 202	A plan: Not The Plan, but a plan: It just seems like we need reps who'll step up and coordinate their votes by dividing the votes quickly, in close succession. Then somebody filibusters (phantom, this would be your calling, I believe) until the deadline passes. I can't believe I'm saying this, but fewer reps would probably get the job done easier. Edit: Ha, Boro, I kinda wish I was, actually. Then the game I've been playing would seem so much more well constructed and sly and calculating than it really is. __________________ Arvedui III has walked to Rivendell! Last edited by Ilya; 11-19-2008 at 11:20 PM.

11-19-2008, 11:18 PM	#9
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Ilya, I was going to tell tp we will probably need his filibuster, you're good in mind book. If you're a wolf, well...nevermind I just hope you aren't. __________________ Fenris Penguin

11-19-2008, 11:06 PM	#1
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Anyway, that's my big reveal, and I will ask everyone now (excluding morm and Nogrod - you two sit in the corner, and take your unknown wolf partner too ) how can we get this double-lynch today? __________________ Fenris Penguin

11-19-2008, 11:23 PM	#10
Ilya Wight Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: In the cold Posts: 202	Isn't there a special Ordo that can turn into a wolf at will, or something? That'd be cool, then I could just be like, "Oh, I was totally a wolf all along." Ah well. Another time. Congrats on the 4000 posts, by the way. __________________ Arvedui III has walked to Rivendell! Last edited by Ilya; 11-19-2008 at 11:27 PM.

11-19-2008, 11:29 PM	#12
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	I'm currently pondering the double lynch situation. I'll make a post soon. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

11-19-2008, 11:37 PM	#13
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	As far as the double lynch, here's what I see... We are working with 11 people (I'm not counting morm and Nog and Gil). I think we can probably count on all eleven to follow orders because the one remaining Werewolf won't dare step out of line at this point in the game. We vote Boro three votes. We vote phantom three votes. Now, we just need to select someone else to receive three votes, and a fourth person to receive two votes. If we do that then we don't need to filibuster or anything. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

11-19-2008, 11:42 PM	#14
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	If we follow the voting plan above, then our voting Reps will hold the following vote power- 3-3-3-2 If either morm or Nog votes for a Rep with 3 votes, the other three-vote Reps cast their votes and the people with 4 and 2 abstain, resulting in a tie. If both morm and Nog vote for the same Rep, once again two of the Reps with 3 votes force a tie. If they vote for two different 3-vote Reps, they'll still be tied. If they vote for a 3-vote Rep and the 2-vote Rep, there will still be multiple 3-vote Reps, and thus a tie vote is once again possible. So long as we do our Rep voting early in the day, and do our lynch voting early in the Day, those two WWs can't possibly filibuster the entire Day. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

11-19-2008, 11:45 PM	#15
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Please tell me if you see a flaw in the plan. I'm tired, so I may have overlooked something. But if no one spots anything, I will be happy to write up a voting map which will assign everyone a Rep to vote for. All we need to do is come up with our two other Reps. It won't really matter if we choose a WW, because, as I said earlier, he won't dare step out of line when he's the last one left. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

11-19-2008, 11:50 PM	#16
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	I'd be very happy to run for office on a "lynch morm" ticket. Just for the good of the village, you understand. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

11-19-2008, 11:51 PM	#17
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Well, Nerwen, can you promise promise promise that you will be around early during Part 2 of toDay? In other words, will you be around exactly 22 hours from now? __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

11-19-2008, 11:57 PM	#19
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	Well, Boro, since morm has more or less admitted his guilt, I'm on board for whatever you want to do. Just give the word. __________________ Stories and songs.

11-20-2008, 12:09 AM	#20
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Those of you who are around, please look over the voting plan outlined in posts #1253 and #1254. If it looks to you like it is sound, let me know so that I can begin outlining the plan in greater detail. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.