Vague Descriptions - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

The Might · 11-22-2008, 09:05 AM

1. There was a person.
2. This person was vulnerable to a certain kind of disease.
3. This disease is a kind you won't usually find in a medic's handbook.
4. It caused this person, eventually, to move far from this person's home place.
5. That person did not die because of the disease, as far as we know.

I see Queen Beruthiel of Gondor and maybe her disease was catomisia?! She loathed cats and because of all the stuff she did with the cats and her strange way of acting she was sent far away from he home place.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-22-2008, 10:19 AM

The disease (as you may logically conclude from what I said) is specifically named in the books. So it is not "some disease" (unspecified) nor "catomisia"

(something whose name you just make up without any support for it in the text) but something named in the book.

Okay, another hint (though I am not sure if it will help or if it will confuse things more

If it seemed confusing to you, you would perhaps do better by ignoring it): There was a certain group of inhabitants of M-E who all had this disease by default. (This person, who is the subject of the question, was not one of them, though.)

Gollum the Great · 11-22-2008, 07:55 PM

You've got to be making this up, Legate.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-23-2008, 10:16 AM

No way, my good Gollum. Okay, another hint. One of the group mentioned above died recently before the person in question left its home place. These events were closely related (not totally, like one being consequence of the other, but simply related to each other). And, to add, the death of this one mentioned above was not a result of the disease. The disease itself is not lethal. But very often throughout the history of M-E, somebody died as an outcome of that disease. However, it was not the disease itself that killed them.

That's a lot of hints, I'd say. Try to put all the evidence together and try to think.

And remember, still: we are looking for one certain person about whom we read as being vulnerable to this disease. (Like I said, there were many who had this disease, and probably also some who were vulnerable to it, but about this one we know because the book says it.)

Thinlómien · 11-23-2008, 02:44 PM

I can only think of the Sackville-Bagginses and their sort of cleptomania

, but that does not fit more than maybe half of the hints...

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-23-2008, 02:48 PM

No, but actually, you are far, far closer to the correct answer than all of those who posted here this far have been. You are very, very close, from several aspects.

The Might · 11-23-2008, 03:57 PM

Cleptomania?

Well, actually I was going to say Sméagol curious "disease" of greedily wanting mroe presents for himself.

After all this affected all Hobbits, and because of it he eventually had to move far away from his home place, but did not die because of it... well ok, maybe he did.

But anyway, since you said the person did not belong to the group of people affected by it by default it cannon be right...

11-22-2008, 09:05 AM	#1
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	1. There was a person. 2. This person was vulnerable to a certain kind of disease. 3. This disease is a kind you won't usually find in a medic's handbook. 4. It caused this person, eventually, to move far from this person's home place. 5. That person did not die because of the disease, as far as we know. I see Queen Beruthiel of Gondor and maybe her disease was catomisia?! She loathed cats and because of all the stuff she did with the cats and her strange way of acting she was sent far away from he home place. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

11-22-2008, 10:19 AM	#2
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	The disease (as you may logically conclude from what I said) is specifically named in the books. So it is not "some disease" (unspecified) nor "catomisia" (something whose name you just make up without any support for it in the text) but something named in the book. Okay, another hint (though I am not sure if it will help or if it will confuse things more If it seemed confusing to you, you would perhaps do better by ignoring it): There was a certain group of inhabitants of M-E who all had this disease by default. (This person, who is the subject of the question, was not one of them, though.) __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-22-2008, 07:55 PM	#3
Gollum the Great Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Pinnacle of my own might Posts: 386	You've got to be making this up, Legate. __________________ 'It just shows you how true it is that one-half the world doesn't knows how the other three-quarters lives.' Bertie, The Code of the Woosters, by P. G. Wodewouse

11-23-2008, 10:16 AM	#4
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	No way, my good Gollum. Okay, another hint. One of the group mentioned above died recently before the person in question left its home place. These events were closely related (not totally, like one being consequence of the other, but simply related to each other). And, to add, the death of this one mentioned above was not a result of the disease. The disease itself is not lethal. But very often throughout the history of M-E, somebody died as an outcome of that disease. However, it was not the disease itself that killed them. That's a lot of hints, I'd say. Try to put all the evidence together and try to think. And remember, still: we are looking for one certain person about whom we read as being vulnerable to this disease. (Like I said, there were many who had this disease, and probably also some who were vulnerable to it, but about this one we know because the book says it.) __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-23-2008, 02:44 PM	#5
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	I can only think of the Sackville-Bagginses and their sort of cleptomania , but that does not fit more than maybe half of the hints... __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

11-23-2008, 02:48 PM	#6
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	No, but actually, you are far, far closer to the correct answer than all of those who posted here this far have been. You are very, very close, from several aspects. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-23-2008, 03:57 PM	#7
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Cleptomania? Well, actually I was going to say Sméagol curious "disease" of greedily wanting mroe presents for himself. After all this affected all Hobbits, and because of it he eventually had to move far away from his home place, but did not die because of it... well ok, maybe he did. But anyway, since you said the person did not belong to the group of people affected by it by default it cannon be right... __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown