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Feanor of the Peredhil · 11-28-2008, 10:22 AM

Writing a paper (taking a mini break), so I can't really post for real at the moment, but here's what I'm thinking:

""You have blessed me with knowing your desire that Saeryn become my wife, for which I thank you. But we have not spoken, you and I, of bride price and dowery. Now that you are head of your house, and Saeryn is your sister, what would you have from me in plight for the good of your sister, both while we live, but more to the point, for her security in widowhoood?"" (Eodwine to Degas)

Saeryn would have had a dowery in place already, yes? Presumably? But would Crazy-Fenrir have left it alone, particularly once she fell from favor? To the point: can I assume that Saer already has a dowery containing dowery-stuff, or does the rather prodigal Degas need to come up with a new one from the wreckage of his long-avoided home?

And I'm now definitely thinking of bride-price as 'retirement fund.'

Also, I'm thinking, Saeryn hasn't really been a part of the Folde for quite some time now, so handing over stuff to make up for what the Folde will be losing isn't quite like if she'd been living at home being the sole weaver or something.

Also, though- would it be appropriate for Degas to go home and see what his lands need before naming a bride price? Or is this a conversation that must be settled 'now' regardless of the current state of the Folde?

littlemanpoet · 11-28-2008, 05:51 PM

I think that Degas' and Eodwine's combined situation is rather unique. Both are relatively poor lords in start-up phase. Eodwine has very little to offer Degas in bride price, and Degas has very little to offer Eodwine in dowry because no doubt stoopid crazy brother sabotaged it. So I think that the two of them are likely to come to one of two decisions:

1) "let's settle this when we're both a bit more settled". This has the negative for Eodwine of nothing new for start-up, but it's a positive for Degas, obviously; and Saeryn's bride price/retirement fund is unaffected.

2) Bride price and dowry are combined in a pact of life-long alliance, aid, and friendship, as long as two of the three individuals shall live. This has the negative of no real boost to any of them in the start-up phase, but the long term rewards would of course be huge for all involved.

Can anybody think of a 3)?

11-28-2008, 10:22 AM	#1
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Writing a paper (taking a mini break), so I can't really post for real at the moment, but here's what I'm thinking: ""You have blessed me with knowing your desire that Saeryn become my wife, for which I thank you. But we have not spoken, you and I, of bride price and dowery. Now that you are head of your house, and Saeryn is your sister, what would you have from me in plight for the good of your sister, both while we live, but more to the point, for her security in widowhoood?"" (Eodwine to Degas) Saeryn would have had a dowery in place already, yes? Presumably? But would Crazy-Fenrir have left it alone, particularly once she fell from favor? To the point: can I assume that Saer already has a dowery containing dowery-stuff, or does the rather prodigal Degas need to come up with a new one from the wreckage of his long-avoided home? And I'm now definitely thinking of bride-price as 'retirement fund.' Also, I'm thinking, Saeryn hasn't really been a part of the Folde for quite some time now, so handing over stuff to make up for what the Folde will be losing isn't quite like if she'd been living at home being the sole weaver or something. Also, though- would it be appropriate for Degas to go home and see what his lands need before naming a bride price? Or is this a conversation that must be settled 'now' regardless of the current state of the Folde? __________________ peace

11-28-2008, 05:51 PM	#2
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	I think that Degas' and Eodwine's combined situation is rather unique. Both are relatively poor lords in start-up phase. Eodwine has very little to offer Degas in bride price, and Degas has very little to offer Eodwine in dowry because no doubt stoopid crazy brother sabotaged it. So I think that the two of them are likely to come to one of two decisions: 1) "let's settle this when we're both a bit more settled". This has the negative for Eodwine of nothing new for start-up, but it's a positive for Degas, obviously; and Saeryn's bride price/retirement fund is unaffected. 2) Bride price and dowry are combined in a pact of life-long alliance, aid, and friendship, as long as two of the three individuals shall live. This has the negative of no real boost to any of them in the start-up phase, but the long term rewards would of course be huge for all involved. Can anybody think of a 3)? Last edited by littlemanpoet; 11-29-2008 at 10:16 AM.