Sauron vs Olorin 1on1

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now now thats just plain condensending. Are we here to discuss things or insult each other?

I didn't insult anyone; I stated fact. Five people posted in this thread to say that Sauron is stronger than Gandalf, and none of them gave any text to support the claim. I still have not seen any.

I am very familiar with your quotes, as they are part of the arguments I present in the threads I linked to. I must say, you misrepresent Tolkien quite well. Your first UT quote says that Olórin was lesser than Eönwë, not Sauron -- but you cut that part out. Again, with your quote from MT, you misquote. Not only do you paraphrase Tolkien and present it as an actual quotation, you also leave out the part where Tolkien says who Sauron was greater than. He wasn't speaking of Sauron in comparison to Gandalf, he was comparing Sauron at the height of his power to Morgoth at his weakest.

I'm appalled at your abuse of Tolkien's writings.