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Old 01-17-2009, 09:27 AM   #1
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Ugh, you can never do any tricks around here anymore that will work. People blow it up before it ever has a chance of working.
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Old 01-17-2009, 09:34 AM   #2
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Ugh, you can never do any tricks around here anymore that will work. People blow it up before it ever has a chance of working.





See, I'm entirely backwards this game, obviously, so if I trust someone they have to be a critic or Walter. I trust Boro, so he's gotta be evil.

I'm wondering, however, why he didn't try to hop on to Kath's vote for me. Well, too obvious I suppose, and there's always a retraction. Of course at the same time if he wants to make me look guilty (be he Walter or an actual critic) all he needs to do is support me and I'll get the lynch. (And they'll get the game.)
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Old 01-17-2009, 09:39 AM   #3
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Votes are

Kath-->Sally
Boro-->Boro


Obviously I'm not going to advocate lynching myself, because for one I know I'm innocent, for two I'm not a masochist (at least not today ) and for three of the two candidates Boro is the ONLY choice of not losing the game toDay. So if I have to, yes, I will vote for Boro, because I'd rather take a chance on killing Walter and letting the critics win than I would see a known innocent (in this case me) die and have us lose the game for sure.

Headed off to work in a bit. My participation my really go down the tubes for the rest of the Day. My apologies.

EDIT: X'd with Fea....erm, I mean Boro.
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Old 01-17-2009, 09:42 AM   #4
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Honestly, not quite sure I believe you Boro. You could be the cobbler just revealing, you could be a faking ordo, you could be the cobbler pretending to be a faking ordo. We others have no way to know it.
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Honestly, not quite sure I believe you Boro. You could be the cobbler just revealing, you could be a faking ordo, you could be the cobbler pretending to be a faking ordo. We others have no way to know it.
I hate to say this, but perhaps it's best to ignore him. Well, not ignore, but concentrate on perhaps lynching someone else.

Kath=diva
Agan=soulmate
Sally=innocent
Boro=a headache

which leaves Lari, Shasta, and Gwath. Which of those is the best choice?

(And remember, Agan, I'm pretty sure Mith picked the roles, Phantom notwithstanding, at random, so it's very possible that Lari IS a critic. I'm not saying that she is, but don't discount it as a possibility.)

I need to get ready to leave for work. Sorry.
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Old 01-17-2009, 09:51 AM   #6
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I remember that. I don't think I've ever suggested she hand picked them.

And I would be suspicious enough of Boro even without his cobbler reveal now. Come on, why would an innocent want to give cobbler hints? It seems rather impossible he could convince the critics without the necessary information at hand.

And all innocents should vote together. Kath and I won't be around at deadline which is enough for the wolves & cobbler to mess things up if possible.
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Old 01-17-2009, 09:53 AM   #7
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You won't until I'm dead, that's correct. But very well. I had to make it look convincing.

Maybe I can stop with the silly ploys and be of a little more use.
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Old 01-17-2009, 09:57 AM   #8
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But do we really believe Kath and Boro? If Kath's only proof is her word and Boro saying he's the cobbler and spied on her then who do we believe? Yes, Kath could have known her role the whole time. Yes, Boro could be the cobbler. But what if the cobbler didn't spy on Kath? It seems more obvious that the cobbler would spy on Mac, the phantom, Fea, and Agan. From what I've seen of the game those seemed to be the most obvious choices. I'm not saying I'm the cobbler but to me that would be who I would spy on(well, and from what I've heard of previous games from Fea).

That being said, what if Boro is an ordo? I've heard of(again Fea) being an ordo and playing to the wolves. I mean, I seem to remember her saying something like that once. Would Boro do the same thing?

It seems the people are really quick to believe Kath as the diva and really quick to believe Boro as the cobbler. To me, that just doesn't seem like anything else that's happened in the game, with the exception of Fea's obvious guilt.

And wow, I mentioned her a lot in this post. Didn't really mean to do that.
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Old 01-17-2009, 10:09 AM   #9
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Why do you think those are the cobbler's choices?

It's possible Boro is innocent, I just find it unlikely. It's also possible he's a critic (hmm I forgot that from my previous post where I listed what he could be). He could very well try to kill the real cobbler and make himself look good.

I believe Kath is the diva because she looked innocent even before her reveal & she revealed in a convincing way. I don't believe Boro is a baddie just because of his reveal - as a matter of fact I xed with it when writing a post why I thought he could be the cobbler.
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All I can say is today I would like not to be lynched. If I say I'm a critic, everyone (critics included) would want me lynched immediately, and then I'm really dead. If I said I was Walter I was thinking well maybe not everyone, because at this stage Walter counts in our vote tally and now we don't want Walter dead. Walter serves no more purpose to the critics, he only counts in our favour. So, I thought if I faked Walter, there would be a less likely push for my immediate lynching. Plus, I would hope to prove my own innocence, drag out the real Walter, and get us down to 3 unknowns.

I guess I've said all that, and repeating won't help. But what about the effort to save Mac yesterday? And then above everyone else Mac is killed at night? The critics saved him and then killed him, to either silence him, or make themselves look better.

Mac votes for sally, retracts and votes Gwath.
Lari votes Mac, retracts and votes Gollum
sally votes Gollum at the end.
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:25 AM   #11
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But do we really believe Kath and Boro? If Kath's only proof is her word and Boro saying he's the cobbler and spied on her then who do we believe? Yes, Kath could have known her role the whole time. Yes, Boro could be the cobbler. But what if the cobbler didn't spy on Kath? It seems more obvious that the cobbler would spy on Mac, the phantom, Fea, and Agan. From what I've seen of the game those seemed to be the most obvious choices. I'm not saying I'm the cobbler but to me that would be who I would spy on(well, and from what I've heard of previous games from Fea).
I still think this is somewhat creepy.

edit: xed with phantom & Boro
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Here's the deal...

There is one crucial mistake you are wrong about Agan...this
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I don't have time to sit here and defend myself, or go through posts to try and defend myself. And besides even if I did that rarely ever works. With Kath's reveal, that left...

sally
Gwath
Shasta
Lari


Who I was unsure about. My Walter reveal was fake, now why would an ordo do a fake cobbler reveal? I did it a long time ago when Fordim was a cobbler, I faked a cobbler reveal to not only prove my innocence but force the real cobbler to come out, that was our only shot of winning.

I thought I'd attempt it again, I could get the real cobbler out, plus prove my innocence leaving 3 unknowns 2 of them critics. Those are hell-a-good chances. But now that's been entirely blown up. And now all I can tell you is lynch me and it's over.
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