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Old 01-21-2009, 06:29 PM   #1
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Aieeeeeeeeeee now I know EXACTLY what it means, and how it goes in English and in Finnish, but I cannot recall who says it to whom and I know I should. Ilya, you're killing me!
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Old 01-21-2009, 06:31 PM   #2
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Based on my smattering of Latin, I can translate about half of that.
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Old 01-21-2009, 06:34 PM   #3
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I know!!!!!!!!!!!!! Will you accept an incorrect translation because I don't have an English Sil? I'll check it from my Finnish one and give you the names (if they're the ones I think they are) and some version in bad English (I can translate from Finnish to English better than from Spanish to English...)
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Old 01-21-2009, 06:46 PM   #4
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Is that some sort of edited version? Because I was thinking of Ulmo to Turgon: (my bad translation, underlined the part in your quote) "But when this danger approaches, then someone will come from Nevrast to warn you, and from him, through ruin and fire, will be born a hope to Elves and Men." More or less?
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Aww, Lommy, I'm sorry this is causing you so much stress, but that's not it at all.

This is so funny, because I just flipped to a page in my copy of the Sil and skimmed until I found a bit of dialog. Ulmo is not involved, I'll say that much. Also, cámara is a more archaic form of casa, if that helps.
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:39 AM   #6
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Aww, Lommy, I'm sorry this is causing you so much stress, but that's not it at all.

This is so funny, because I just flipped to a page in my copy of the Sil and skimmed until I found a bit of dialog. Ulmo is not involved, I'll say that much. Also, cámara is a more archaic form of casa, if that helps.
Haha, no problem Ilya. I was wondering why would you cut the sentence like that. But at least it's proven Tolkien uses the same phrasings all over again... Btw are you sure the quote is from Sil and not UT? Because that makes me wonder...
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Old 01-22-2009, 06:24 AM   #7
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