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The Might · 01-21-2009, 10:47 PM

Wait... weren't the Dwarves made after they moved to Aman?

Please correct me if I am wrong there.

Beregond · 01-21-2009, 10:54 PM

Oh! Before they went to Aman! I missed that.

This is hard! I can't think of anyone who came in the period between Aman and the song of the Maiar. And I don't think you can mean the Maiar, because they didn't "descend" from anyone.

Unless you mean....erm...someone like the Valaraukar?

Thinlómien · 01-22-2009, 01:40 AM

Just Elves?

Gollum the Great · 01-22-2009, 01:46 AM

I'm wondering... it wasn't some species of tree, was it? Not the Malorn?

Vaine · 01-22-2009, 06:47 AM

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Think before Aman, before they went to live over the sea.

Edit:
Before the two trees were made, before they came to live on Aman.
only thing that comes to mind are the vanyar, possibly.
What other creatures existed at the years of the Lamps?

PS. Beregond:

The Valaraukar were maiar themselves..

The Might · 01-22-2009, 12:04 PM

Yes, the malorn also are pretty old...
But the thing is for this particular thing... it is said about it that it is said about it to be of this descent

Think about the time when they still used to live in Almaren or sometime afterwards...

Vaine · 01-22-2009, 12:38 PM

I think I just realised, when you say 'they' you mean the Valar, and not the 'thing' this puzzle is about.

... thing eh, Are you talking about the Lamps of the Valar, being of the age when the island of Almaren got destroyed by melkor?

Or possibly The Children of illuvatar, as all of them could trace their ancestry to the same age and event.

or even the inland seas of helcar and rhun?

Beregond · 01-22-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vaine

The Valaraukar were maiar themselves..

Yes, I know - I thought since the Balrogs were a type of Maiar...meh, it was just a terrible guess.

The Might · 01-22-2009, 06:06 PM

Nope, sorry Vaine. Actually, the idea with the horses previously was not that bad... maybe think in a similar direction.

Ilya · 01-22-2009, 09:57 PM

Quite a stumper. is it a place, maybe? Utumno? From whence Melkor's evil flowed?

Vaine · 01-23-2009, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Might

Nope, sorry Vaine. Actually, the idea with the horses previously was not that bad... maybe think in a similar direction.

But I was right about the 'they' thing?
That you mean the Valar and not the 'thing' in question?

New Suggestion:

The Kine of araw, being descendants of the cattle of Oromë.

The Might · 01-23-2009, 09:42 AM

Vaine wins!

I'll have to rep you for that when I can.

Good job there, looking forward to seeing what you have planned.

01-21-2009, 10:47 PM	#1
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Wait... weren't the Dwarves made after they moved to Aman? Please correct me if I am wrong there. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

01-21-2009, 10:54 PM	#2
Beregond Playful Ghoul Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,251	Oh! Before they went to Aman! I missed that. This is hard! I can't think of anyone who came in the period between Aman and the song of the Maiar. And I don't think you can mean the Maiar, because they didn't "descend" from anyone. Unless you mean....erm...someone like the Valaraukar? __________________ "Hope and memory shall live still in some hidden valley where the grass is green."

01-22-2009, 01:40 AM	#3
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Just Elves? __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

01-22-2009, 01:46 AM	#4
Gollum the Great Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Pinnacle of my own might Posts: 386	I'm wondering... it wasn't some species of tree, was it? Not the Malorn? __________________ 'It just shows you how true it is that one-half the world doesn't knows how the other three-quarters lives.' Bertie, The Code of the Woosters, by P. G. Wodewouse

01-22-2009, 12:04 PM	#6
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Yes, the malorn also are pretty old... But the thing is for this particular thing... it is said about it that it is said about it to be of this descent Think about the time when they still used to live in Almaren or sometime afterwards... __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

01-22-2009, 12:38 PM	#7
Vaine Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 65	I think I just realised, when you say 'they' you mean the Valar, and not the 'thing' this puzzle is about. ... thing eh, Are you talking about the Lamps of the Valar, being of the age when the island of Almaren got destroyed by melkor? Or possibly The Children of illuvatar, as all of them could trace their ancestry to the same age and event. or even the inland seas of helcar and rhun? Last edited by Vaine; 01-22-2009 at 01:46 PM.

01-22-2009, 06:06 PM	#9
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Nope, sorry Vaine. Actually, the idea with the horses previously was not that bad... maybe think in a similar direction. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

01-22-2009, 09:57 PM	#10
Ilya Wight Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: In the cold Posts: 202	Quite a stumper. is it a place, maybe? Utumno? From whence Melkor's evil flowed? __________________ Arvedui III has walked to Rivendell!

01-23-2009, 09:42 AM	#12
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Vaine wins! I'll have to rep you for that when I can. Good job there, looking forward to seeing what you have planned. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown